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• General Discussions

  • looking for other classes
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      solocaine (January 16, 2017 12:43 am)
      
      how to unlock additional classes on avatar eras online game plz anyone know.
      
      
      squarebananas (January 16, 2017 5:08 pm)
      
      There is an additional class to unlock in each of the other main towns that become accessible as the game progresses. These are as follows:
      
      Terra Tamer - Unlocked by completing the quest "Infringement-Mon" given by the "Terra Tamer Specialist" in "Thulian Dockyard"
      
      Aerial Hunter - Unlocked by completing the quest "Man Hunt" given by the "Aerial Hunter Specialist" in "Alizarin Fortress"
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      
  • Where are the bonus codes located in
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      Rochanan (November 9, 2016 11:07 pm)
      
      CCC and EJ?
      
      
      squarebananas (November 10, 2016 11:46 am)
      
      When unlocking bonus content a guide window will pop up saying "On the full game of ... press Up, Y, Down then X on the main menu to receive your bonus code. Make a note of the code and then enter it below to receive your bonus rewards." The main menu is the screen immediately after the press start screen with each game.
      
      Basically these quests are like a reward for those who have purchased some of the previous indie games. These quests are entirely optional though.
      
      
      
  • Question for the Devs
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      a veLOLciraptor (September 24, 2016 12:50 am)
      
      Hey Squarebananas I really love your games and was wondering if you ever think you might release a pc port of your games or a new game on pc. I would be happy to pay 5-10$ maybe more for my favorite games like AAO, and AEO on steam, goggames, etc. especially sense Microsoft stopped supporting indie game on xbox 360. But more then anything I'm just wondering what your plans are for the future of your games.
      
      P.S. You are Awesome
      
      
      squarebananas (September 26, 2016 2:04 pm)
      
      Thanks.
      
      My plan at the moment is to try out a few different engines on different platforms and take it from there. With game development I have only ever used XNA for Xbox 360 (which uses C# and Direct X), so whatever platform I target next I will need to move to a new engine/framework first.
      
      I will probably focus on learning the development process for PC and also Android first using either the Unity engine or Monogame framework. So PC ports of some games may happen in the future, although it's a bit early to say for certain.
      
      One of the major challenges with any porting will be that some of my Xbox 360 games relied heavily on the use of Xbox Live networking / Xbox avatars and these won't be available on other platforms. I think these functions will probably take the most time to develop alternatives for or find replacements to when porting.
      
      So it will probably be a while before any new games or ports of old games are in development, but I should be focusing on experimenting with and developing on alternative engines/frameworks fairly soon.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      
  • Ideas for new Multiplayer Online RPG!
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      ChewyLouie420 (June 12, 2012 11:56 pm)
      
      im a fan of indie game makers because they are US! these guys made sumfin great with avatar adventures. I would like to start some ideas for maybe a avatar adventure 2?? I know ive been aching for a MMORPG thats legit for the Xbox community and not bogged down by huge corporations. They gave us a taste with Avatar adventures and instead of asking for updates and patches, Lets give them ideas for any new projects they have in mind!
      
      
      squarebananas (June 13, 2012 9:03 am)
      
      

      im a fan of indie game makers because they are US! these guys made sumfin great with avatar adventures. I would like to start some ideas for maybe a avatar adventure 2?? I know ive been aching for a MMORPG thats legit for the Xbox community and not bogged down by huge corporations. They gave us a taste with Avatar adventures and instead of asking for updates and patches, Lets give them ideas for any new projects they have in mind!

      Thank you very much. I'm happy to hear any suggestions although please bear in mind it isn't possible to add everything everyone requests.
      
      Technically "Avatar Adventurers Online" is only a multiplayer online RPG and not a MMORPG. Indie games can have a maximum of 31 players in a network session and although I originally planned to support this I limited the maximum to 16 to help improve network connectivity and performance. For this reason it isn't possible to develop a full MMORPG but rather only simple online RPGs for the Xbox indie games channel.
      
      Heres some ideas people have already suggested and I have made a note of:
      
      - Classes / Jobs (Rather than a single class system like AAO)
      
      - Skill Development
      
      - Pets to catch/obtain and use in battle
      
      - Mounts to ride
      
      - Crafting
      
      - Walk inside buildings
      
      - Treasure Chests
      
      
      ChewyLouie420 (June 13, 2012 8:24 pm)
      
      My apologies for mis wording that, Also def understand the work and time it takes to make these games and i completely get that you cant throw everything we say into the pot and cook it. I just wanted to ignite yur fans into a gamin frenzy we have no good community rpgs to play and you guys seem to really care about what we say. Now for a suggestion lol i get the whole avatar feel to the game but could you try to at least dress them appropriate for the theme you guys have. Stay frosty!
      
      
      squarebananas (June 18, 2012 9:29 am)
      
      No problem and thanks again.
      
      

      Now for a suggestion lol i get the whole avatar feel to the game but could you try to at least dress them appropriate for the theme you guys have.

      Thankyou for the suggestion. The problem with this is Microsoft have rules for how avatars can be used within games (you can find the list here). One of the rules is avatar features including clothing cannot be replaced by the game itself. This is why equipment held in hands is shown but equipment worn like shirts and shoes are not replaced/shown.
      
      The alternative to this would be not to use avatars and use custom human models instead. However drawing realistic human models and animating them in a smooth way is very difficult (at least it would be for me) compared to using the built-in avatar system. Also there would be a huge amount of work creating clothes and equipment to make players and NPCs unique.
      
      With avatars though you already have access to lots of clothes and character parameters that can be adjusted through the dashboard. I understand most of the selections probably don't match the style you would expect for a RPG but it does mean more time can be spent developing other aspects of the game.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      SuPeR X AnGeR (July 11, 2012 2:29 pm)
      
      I think that within a new game like AAO, you would have to restrict access to high level areas until you obtain a certain item/complete a certain quest. I reached level 99 without any proper boosting, whereas so far after the game's release, many players will either hire a high level within the game, or convince someone within their friends list to boost them in usually very dangerous areas, and I think it would actually mean getting to higher levels is more difficult, and is more of an actual display of your 'loyalty' and skill, rather than just a power level.
      
      Also, perhaps when you level up you get to assign a point to strength, defence etc, as well as being given some, so to specialise to a certain attribute, and maybe different variations of the type classes, perhaps like the job class systems within Phantasy Star Universe (that is, if you bother to pay for the online, as there are loads more online classes than on the single player modes), or Dragon's Dogma. For instance a more offensive magic class, a more support/debilitate magic class, and a healing class. Although separate magic classes would be easier to think of, I suppose more ability ideas would have to be thought of to make this work, like weapon skills or something.
      
      
      squarebananas (July 13, 2012 10:02 am)
      
      

      I think that within a new game like AAO, you would have to restrict access to high level areas until you obtain a certain item/complete a certain quest. I reached level 99 without any proper boosting, whereas so far after the game's release, many players will either hire a high level within the game, or convince someone within their friends list to boost them in usually very dangerous areas, and I think it would actually mean getting to higher levels is more difficult, and is more of an actual display of your 'loyalty' and skill, rather than just a power level.

      Restricting areas would be one option, however high level players could still help boost in low level areas if they're not bothered about gaining exp themselves. Another option would be to drop the exp gained if a higher level player was in the same team. Again though this isn't ideal as with only a handful of players on a server it would be difficult to form a team of similar level players. I will give this some more thought but I agree that limiting any potential boosting would improve the gameplay.
      
      

      Also, perhaps when you level up you get to assign a point to strength, defence etc, as well as being given some, so to specialise to a certain attribute, and maybe different variations of the type classes, perhaps like the job class systems within Phantasy Star Universe (that is, if you bother to pay for the online, as there are loads more online classes than on the single player modes), or Dragon's Dogma. For instance a more offensive magic class, a more support/debilitate magic class, and a healing class. Although separate magic classes would be easier to think of, I suppose more ability ideas would have to be thought of to make this work, like weapon skills or something.

      I haven't played either of those games but a class/job and skill development system would be a priority for any new RPG. Rather than fixed development I would try to have customisable stats and abilities where possible to make players more unique. Additional ability classes (maybe unlocked by or restricted to certain jobs) would be good too as well as skills available for certain equipment types. Again this too is something I will give more thought to.
      
      Thank you for the suggestions.
      
      
      YSHW2012 (November 1, 2012 4:17 pm)
      
      Hi,
      
      I got a idea for good RPG game and done some work on it in python (computer langage). It's a fairly complex system and might be too big to use but I would be happy discussing it but not on a forum. If you like to know more about this game then please email me and I would be happy to discuss it with you.
      
      Cheers
      
      YSHW2012
      
      
      squarebananas (November 5, 2012 11:39 am)
      
      At the moment I'm fairly busy with another project but I'm happy to hear any suggestions still. If you don't want to discuss it here then you can also contact me by email, forum pm or xbox message detailed on the contact us page.
      
      If your interested in developing your own games it might be worth looking at the xbox indie games site at: http://xbox.create.msdn.com/en-US
      
      The site has lots of information for developing your own indie games including development tools, code samples and a discussion forum. One issue you might encounter though is xbox indie games are usually developed in C# rather than python so I'm not sure if your existing code would be usable.
      
      
      Skagzi1la (December 18, 2012 7:15 am)
      
      Instead of trying to fix the problem of higher leveled players basicly power leveling lower levels straight to 99.... Embrace it, its basicly people who, in most cases have spent a mass amount of time to get to 99, at least thats the way it should be in my opinion. What I am asking for is something I seen in a different game, about 6 or so years ago.. Basicly you would join a team with a high leveled player, and every time one of their kills or someone elses kills in their party caused someone 20 levels below them to level up they would get basicly mentoring points or something similar. Which could be spent on exp for themselves, items, armour... bonus stats perhaps? Exp should be exponentially higher for say, a level 1 who was in the team when a 140 was killed, compared to say a lvl 80 player. When this game first came out, if any single person asked me to power level them, the very first thing I did was look at weather or not they completed mission 9 yet or not. If they hadn't I'd point them in that dirrection. Sheer laziness on my part, the proficiency system helped a whole lot with that, as I now had a reason to help them... prof credits, haha (Thanks, you gave a dieing game new life)
      
      
      squarebananas (December 18, 2012 11:22 am)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions.
      
      I guess it's not that I would want to prevent higher level players teaming up with lower level players. Rather I would want to reduce the rate at which low level players could level up this way and also give them something to do instead of simply following a higher level player around and letting them do all the work.
      
      While experience points gained are decreased for lower level players against higher level enemies I guess this could be reduced further. Also like you say an alternative point system when teaming up with higher level players would be an option to consider.
      
      Another option might be to have high level only areas but also have level capped areas where high and low players can mix. The high level player would temporarily have stats reduced in these areas but could still gain exp or other useful points. That way everyone would be rewarded and because the high and low level players would be more evenly matched they could work as a real team much more effectively instead of letting the higher level player do all the work.
      
      I guess the main thing would be to let teams be mixed with high and low level players while rewarding everyone in some way but not over rewarding them and still giving everyone a job to do. There are a number of options to encourage this which would need to be considered but there are definitely some improvements that could be made over the AAO system.
      
      Thanks again for the suggestions.
      
      
      
  • Avatar Advntures New Updates
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      Xader (October 5, 2012 5:09 pm)
      
      New Weapons
      
      a) a weapon for each 5 levels
      
      example:
      
      [Swords]
      
      Level1: Wooden sword, Level5: Iron Sword, Level 10: Steel Sword etc
      
      [Axes]
      
      Level1: Wooden Axe, Level5: Iron Axe, Level 10: Steel Axe etc
      
      [Bows]
      
      Level1: Wooden Bow, Level5: Short Bow, Level10: LongBow, Level 15: Oak Short Bow, Level20: Oak LongBow etc
      
      The same with the rest of the other weapons types. This will allow players to be able to ave a bigger variety of weapons.
      
      You can do exactly the same with gears like shields, trousers, boots, etc.
      
      Shops
      
      Different shops for different types of items (Sword Shop, Shield Shop etc) this will allow players to search for the right shop.
      
      More creatures and different type of bosses. Instead of maing bosses the bigger version of small creatures, just model some new creatures. Making the game fun to play instead of looking at the same creatures over and over again.
      
      Upgrade the maps. They are always a square. This makes the game a bit repetitive.
      
      More quests with story instead of just random quests that don't even talk abt the game except saying "Did you know there is a giant crab inside the water cave" etc
      
      Market place, where players can place their items inside a chest with prices chosen bt themselfs. Other players have to interact with the chest and if they have money enough to be the item they want all they have to do is to chose it and click buy. This will allow players to collect rares and sell them.
      
      Make rare items (Dropped by creatures) Example
      
      Exp stones that will give a certain amount of experience points.
      
      Enchant Stones that will allow players to enchant their weapon for
      
      a] Poison damage
      
      b] Fire damage
      
      c] Water Damage
      
      etc
      
      If you want more ideas just say. My gamertag is Xader4Ever
      
      
      Xader (October 5, 2012 5:17 pm)
      
      Classes
      
      Ninja (uses Katanas and Scyths)
      
      Archer (uses bows)
      
      Warrior (uses swords, shields)
      
      Trojan (uses Dual like 2 swords or 2 axes)
      
      Mager (Uses mage only altough, this class will have higher SP then any other class and lower HP)
      
      Higher Combat Level
      
      Level 1 to Level 130
      
      This will make harder to level up for higher levels then 99 and will allow the Game Designer to bring stronger creatures, weapons, abilities, gears and bosses.
      
      
      squarebananas (October 8, 2012 11:31 am)
      
      Thanks for the post and suggestions.
      
      As with previous updates additional content like areas, enemies and quests are still possible. However with indie game updates not being forced certain additions wouldn't be possible without causing issues.
      
      For example adding a class system now wouldn't work as classes didn't exist in original version so a new version telling an old version online about a class setting wouldn't work. I left spare capacity for most existing content so they can be increased when needed (although there isn't any spares left for extra abilities).
      
      Future games will be coded so people who don't update are automatically booted from network sessions. That way the game can be changed and improved in anyway without needing to consider backwards compatibility issues.
      
      With regards to your suggestions, the amount of equipment since the original release has actually doubled now but I guess there is always room to add more. Although it is possible to add new areas, existing areas are unlikely to change because of compatibility issues. It would definitely be good to have a wider range of enemy types as well, but like most things in the game as this was a solo development project certain steps (such as using larger version of enemies as bosses) were taken to reduce the development time and actually release the game.
      
      The problem with raising the level cap is the stat system is designed with 255 as a maximum value and this value cannot really be changed now with how it affects the networking/battle system. If the level cap were increased then it wouldn't have any stat values left to increase (bearing in mind level, equipment and abilities already allow close to 255 all the time). This was the reason the proficiency system was added in a previous update instead as it allows other non-level dependant stats (movement speed, item drop rate, etc.) to be increased as well.
      
      Although it wouldn't be possible now to add a class system to this game a class/job and skill development system would be a priority for any new RPG. Developing another RPG would be a fairly long term project though as it would be a lot of work. There are lots of aspects that would need improving including as you mentioned the storyline. Also the marketplace and customisable equipment suggestions you made are definitely good ideas, although these too would be difficult to add now but definitely would be possible in a future RPG project.
      
      
      
• Website Suggestions & Bug Reporting

  • a youtube channel for squarebananas
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      TheToxicWildhog (January 15, 2013 10:58 pm)
      
      i wonder if SB has thought about creating a youtube channel. a way to feed his fan base with trailers, tips videos and tutorials. (provided he has a capture device + video editing software)
      
      
      squarebananas (January 19, 2013 1:06 pm)
      
      Thanks for the suggestion. I was thinking of creating a youtube channel when I setup this website but I didn't get round to it at the time. At the moment though I don't have a suitable video capture device to record decent quality video. It is something I will need to look into again at some point.
      
      
      
  • Edit My mistake Comments
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      BrandonT7 (March 2, 2012 4:01 pm)
      
      Well i did a smail comment mistake. I was wondering if you can add an edit to the comments for your news page. I'm sure you know what i mean.
      
      
      squarebananas (March 2, 2012 10:27 pm)
      
      Great suggestion.
      
      I didn't realise that news comments didn't have an edit function. The website itself is built on wordpress so I would have expected that would have been built-in. I have found and installed a plug-in that adds edit functionality to comments. Although it needed to be modified slightly it should now be working.
      
      You might not be able to edit your last comment, however future news comments will have an edit button available for a while after being posted.
      
      Thanks for pointing the issue out.
      
      
      
• Avatar Eras Online

  • Great game, my kids dig it!
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      StrangeOne 81 (January 17, 2017 6:13 am)
      
      I do appreciate the game, and my children love playing in the same world as us, (both parents). While it does suck that they won't allow updates to indie games for Xbox 360 at this time, the game is still really fun overall.
      
      I just wish I was able to find chicken eggs more frequently ??
      
      
      squarebananas (January 18, 2017 12:52 pm)
      
      Thank you very much. I'm really glad to hear you're all enjoying the game. If it wasn't for the update issue I would have probably raised the egg drop rate as well (it's a 15% drop rate which looking back is a bit low).
      
      
      
  • Pet locations
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      Hellswizerd (December 14, 2016 9:24 pm)
      
      Was hoping someone could help me track down all the pets.
      So far the eagle, butterfly, trex & the obvious horse have been found.
      
      On a side note, any idea how many quests there are ,without re-runs factored in
      Thanks ??
      
      Best wishes - villainousnate
      
      
      squarebananas (December 15, 2016 12:58 pm)
      
      If you've got those pets already then you only need two more. The first quest can be started in the royal kitchens in Cordovan Palace and the second quest will trigger when entering Thulian Dockyards after completing the first.
      
      Also I just did a very quick count of the quests:
      15 Chronicle Of Eras, 5 Labyrinth, 42 Side Quests, 10 Area Trials & 11 Exploration
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      Hellswizerd (December 19, 2016 12:21 am)
      
      That helps ALOT thank you ??
      Me and my girlfriend play together all the time & its her favourite co-op , was very disappointed that Microsoft wouldn't let you update the game further has amazing potentional . hope its continued on Xbox one.
      It may encourage me to upgrade to an Xbox one to play the future updates lol
      
      
      squarebananas (December 19, 2016 1:20 pm)
      
      No problem and thank you very much. As you've probably read I haven't received a dev kit for Xbox One yet so although I haven't ruled out development on Xbox One it seems unlikely at the moment.
      
      
      Hellswizerd (December 19, 2016 9:53 pm)
      
      Fingers crossed lol.
      
      
      
  • From a design standpoint, wouldn't it have made more sense to
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      Rochanan (November 13, 2016 3:33 pm)
      
      Have the "[Element] Down" skill of a class be the element to which that class is weak?
      
      
      squarebananas (November 14, 2016 11:58 am)
      
      If the element down skill affected your own element percentage then that would make sense. However the element down skill reduces your opponent's element percentage rather than your own. For example by using "Fire Up" on yourself and "Fire Down" on the opponent, you can increase the damage of the "Flame Ball" skill.
      
      
      MerroBot (November 15, 2016 1:11 am)
      
      Also by having the opposite element on another class it'll help provide options when it comes to a more defensive strategy through cross-training/grouping.
      
      
      Rochanan (November 15, 2016 2:19 am)
      
      It lowers resistance? I should have paid more attention. I thought it lowered skill.
      
      
      
  • Mk. II Distorter of my class only saying "drop item" in inventory.
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      Rochanan (November 11, 2016 5:05 am)
      
      Where do I equip it?
      
      
      squarebananas (November 11, 2016 12:07 pm)
      
      You can equip items on the "Player Stats & Equipment" window.
      
      Certain items can only be equipped in conjunction with other equipment though (any requirements will be shown on the description bar when on the "Manage Items" window, shop windows, etc). So for example a distorter can be equipped to the left hand when used in conjunction with a hammer/scythe/dagger in the right hand.
      
      Also every class has a preferred equipment type. This will be the equipment type you had when starting with your class. On the "Player Stats & Equipment" window you can see which equipment you will be most proficiency with.
      
      As the game progresses you will be able to increase this proficiency value by upgrading skills and when using a non-preferred equipment type by setting a cross-class proficiency skill.
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      Rochanan (November 11, 2016 6:02 pm)
      
      I understand. I was dual-wielding. Thank you.
      
      
      
  • Suggestions.
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      Triston (October 22, 2016 8:05 am)
      
      The game yes is made extremely well, with a few quite minor changes it would draw the attention of even more people.
      
      First is the exp system. The 5% increase should have a buff up to 10% per chain(Max of 200%) or increase exp given per level monster since there is only a small difference in the EXP given per level.
      
      Next: Mining and Harvesting should take less exp to level than the character levels, not the same amount. Smithing and cooking are fine, however, due to fast level progression. I would need to add the need for increasing the successful chance for mining 3 ores at a time per mine than what it is currently at by about 10%. Maybe even 15% I'd have to see personally what the difference becomes.
      
      Next: Add up to 10 support cross class slots rather than 8. So people can get truly unique hybrid classes and really experiment. Also adding a way to create a custom class would be nice too. It still has to be balanced and fair but players can make it the way they want to play, without being too powerful.
      
      Finally: Why does overcharge have a 30 minute cooldown? I know it's super powerful and all but... 30 minutes is just overkill. Maybe just 10 or even 5 minutes instead?
      
      Additional suggestions: Adding leather crafting, potion making and a dungeon you can visit to fight very powerful enemies...
      
      Side suggestion: Have bosses and legendaries give 10x the exp of normal enemies at the same level. So it's more worth peoples time.
      
      Love the game btw,
      Thanks.
      
      
      squarebananas (October 24, 2016 10:43 am)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions.
      
      Originally I was hoping to have regular updates with additional content and system tweaks/improvements. Unfortunately though Microsoft have confirmed what they previously announced regarding stopping new indie games and updates onto Xbox 360 (the marketplace will be staying up though for now). That means there is no longer an opportunity to release updates for the game. Thankfully though the game got through the submission process just in time to be released on the marketplace.
      
      Thanks again and sorry I can't implement some of the improvements mentioned.
      
      
      Jugg3rnaut YT (December 13, 2016 10:45 pm)
      
      Will this indie game be on the Xbox one? I've heard that some if not all indie games have continued over into the Xbox one.. If so I hope this one makes the list because this game is awesome
      
      
      squarebananas (December 15, 2016 12:56 pm)
      
      At the moment this game is just for Xbox 360.
      
      Although Microsoft announced backwards compatibility with Xbox 360 games on Xbox One they later indicated this wouldn't include Xbox 360 indie games.
      
      I'm still interested in developing on Xbox One though. However while I managed to get into the Xbox One program 3 years ago and was promised a dev kit, I still haven't received anything just yet. (Unlike the Xbox 360 indies program which was open to anyone, the Xbox One program is a much more controlled environment by Microsoft).
      
      
      
  • Legendary Creature Locations
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      RoncoFood (September 8, 2016 11:37 pm)
      
      This is a list of the information we have found so far which includes known time of day or weather conditions they were found. I will add item drop info as it is discovered.
      
      Legendary Bat
      Located in Cordovian Grasslands behind the palace in the NE corner. midnight/moon. Dropped lvl 8 Power Belt +1
      
      Legendary Bee
      Located in Zaffre Mines near Steven in the first chamber.
      Kill bats until appears. Dropped lvl 7 Talent slacks +1, lvl 7 Power Chausses +1
      
      Legendary Butterfly
      Located in Wisteria Mills southwest on top of Mesa with a single tree. Conditions for spawning unconfirmed.
      
      Legendary Boar
      Located halfway up the Northern Thulian Bridge. Found during stormy weather (time of day unknown). Dropped Galliant Gaiters +1
      
      Legendary Bovine
      Located in Alizarin Highlands behind fortress. Found mid day/clear. Dropped lvl 9 Bravery gaiters +1
      
      Legendary Raptor
      Located in Antecedent Wisteria SE corner, coordinates 10.H.
      Kill alpha raptor then it appears during sandstorm.
      
      Legendary ???
      Spotted in Antecedent Mordant. Possibly from killing jagged raptors.
      
      
      MerroBot (September 10, 2016 2:13 pm)
      
      Just spotted a Legendary Deer
      Cordovan Grasslands
      Just off the path heading to the Mills
      Coords: G.8 - 3.6
      It was dark outside, not sure of the hour
      Not sure what spawned it, had only killed a handful of chickens outside the castle gates when I spotted the dot on the radar.
      
      
      RoncoFood (September 13, 2016 6:24 am)
      
      I'm unable to edit the original post for some reason. Regardless, I found the legendary butterfly while it was raining. It was the middle of the night, but I think the rain is the trigger. Drops were lvl 17 might chausses +1, lvl 17 Valiant greaves +1, lvl 27 Vigour Chausses.
      
      
      squarebananas (September 14, 2016 1:23 pm)
      
      

      I'm unable to edit the original post for some reason.

      I found a setting on the forum that was set to "allow edits until reply" which was probably the cause. I have now set this to "always allow edits", so hopefully you can edit your first post again now. Also nice work on finding the legendary enemies so far. Let me know if you want any hints (I was hoping that more people would download the game so it might be harder to figure out some of the spawns with less people playing).
      
      
      MerroBot (September 30, 2016 2:16 am)
      
      Well I've seen the legendary chicken in the middle of South thulian bridge during thunderstorm.
      
      Also I'm unsure about killing raptors in mordant. Was online with 2-3 other people in the world, not in the area though. 135 solo kills and no ??? spawn. 145 kills with one other player duoing and no ??? spawn. May give it another try in a week. Might be a population thing.
      
      Also helped with a legendary wolf in the Verdgris Mountains. Spawned on the ramp leading up to the tower near the first eagle spawn. Was night time. Unsure about the weather and moon. Dropped lv 39 boots for the other guy only a fang for me. Went back again during night with no moon in sight and nothing spawned.
      
      
      Rochanan (November 24, 2016 1:04 am)
      
      Legendary Eagle, at front of Alizarin Highlands. Rain, night, kill bears.
      
      
      
  • Questions about possible display settings.
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      DreaganODST (September 7, 2016 9:10 pm)
      
      One thing that I have noticed at night it is impossible to see anything. I was wondering if there is a secret display settings or something I missed . Maybe a future update to raise and lower brightness and maybe various other display settings. Other then that I'm loving the game so far.
      
      
      RoncoFood (September 8, 2016 12:22 am)
      
      Have you tried your TV settings? I agree, it is especially dark at night during a rainstorm, but I can see within a decent radius well enough. I wouldn't call it impossible. I spam the target button to find far away enemies, lol.
      
      
      DreaganODST (September 8, 2016 3:53 am)
      
      Yes Impossible is to harsh of a word, I think the graphics and monster models look good, so I just wish the moon was brighter so is wouldn't be so dark...I could change my tv brightness, but I wanted to avoid being required to change my tv settings back and forth every time I wanna play AEO
      
      
      squarebananas (September 8, 2016 8:33 am)
      
      Thanks for the feedback. I haven't had an issue with the brightness myself and I did try to test the game on as many TVs and monitors as I could before release. However I guess there can be quite a difference between default brightness levels on different TVs.
      
      Adding a brightness control would be good. The code needed for this wouldn't be too hard to add either. Unfortunately though Microsoft have confirmed what they previously announced regarding stopping new indie games and updates onto Xbox 360 after this week (the marketplace will be staying up though). That means there will no longer be an opportunity to release updates for the game (which is something I was originally hoping to do). Thankfully though the game got through the submission process just in time to be released on the marketplace.
      
      Your suggestion with adjusting the TV setting is probably the best solution although I agree an in-game adjustment would have been better.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      MerroBot (September 8, 2016 10:43 am)
      
      While I do find that the night hours are very dark I also feel a sense of danger. It definitely makes exploration and navigation more difficult but I kinda dig the spookiness.
      
      Also that's a huge bummer regarding the loss of support from MS, sorry. I'm really enjoying the game and was looking forward to more updates. Nevertheless, job well done.
      
      
      DreaganODST (September 8, 2016 7:12 pm)
      
      Yes adjusting the tv was the best option honestly that was the main issue with my gameplay experience. Now everything looks great. That is a major bummer about the microsoft.
      
      
      
  • Questions about how the Skill system works.
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      RoncoFood (September 7, 2016 1:28 am)
      
      I noticed that each class has support skills. What I was wondering was if they work cross class if you level them up? It would seem unfair that only the Terra Trainer class can increase its movement speed if it were otherwise. Thanks and what an amazing game!
      
      
      MerroBot (September 7, 2016 4:19 am)
      
      First you have to learn the desired skill from the parent class, usually this has a level restriction associated with it.
      
      Once learned, when you switch classes go into the Skill Development window. Scroll down to the Cross-Class Skills tab and select which slot to assign a skill to.
      
      
      RoncoFood (September 7, 2016 8:06 pm)
      
      Thanks, that's what I was hoping. I didn't want to spend the hard earned sp before I was sure. Aerial hunter has nice improved money and item drop skills.
      
      
      squarebananas (September 8, 2016 8:29 am)
      
      

      I noticed that each class has support skills. What I was wondering was if they work cross class if you level them up? It would seem unfair that only the Terra Trainer class can increase its movement speed if it were otherwise. Thanks and what an amazing game!

      Thanks. I think MerroBot has already answered the most important details already. The only thing to add is that in addition to normal action skills, support type skills can also be assigned as cross-class skills (which I think was your concern). The only things that can't be assigned should be the overdrive action, item slots upgrade and cross-class skills slots upgrade as these are unique to each class.
      
      
      
• Concept Coaster Craft

  • Custom terrain and Wood meets steel hybrid tracks?
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      EvilxDeath (October 4, 2015 9:26 pm)
      
      Squarebananas, Will we be able to customize our own terrain in the 4th update? And will ccc still be worked on xbox 360? By the way, rmc is a coaster that has a wood meets steel kinda track.one more thing. Can we also have catwalks and better track stations? P.s. I also would love to see a B&M Track.
      
      
      squarebananas (October 6, 2015 12:00 pm)
      
      Game development is being continued on the Xbox 360 although I'll be posting more about the current active projects hopefully later this month or next month.
      
      Customisable terrain, additional track styles, access stairs and selectable stations are all features I am planning to work on though. However with regards track styles, what ever styles are developed these will need to have a similar complexity to the current styles (for example the number of columns/supports and their proximity to each other). This is due to the detrimental effect on performance that overly complex styles have with the resource limitations on Xbox 360.
      
      
      EvilxDeath (October 11, 2015 8:02 pm)
      
      So we will be able to get new train stations? I hope you can research rocky mountain construction (rmc) because I am in love with that track style.
      
      
      EvilxDeath (October 11, 2015 8:05 pm)
      
      One last thing, when do you think the update will be released, and what features are done already?
      
      
      squarebananas (October 12, 2015 11:15 am)
      
      Selectable stations are a feature I'm planning to work on. I will look into mixed steel/wood track styles although as before the issues relating to style complexity will need serious consideration.
      
      With regards to progress, development has only really started about a month ago so it is too early to give any release date. However it is likely to be released during next year. Hopefully later this month or during next month I will be posting more about the current active projects though.
      
      
      EvilxDeath (October 31, 2015 4:57 am)
      
      To be honest, I really dont care anymore. For Christmas, im gonna get a new laptop.Then im gonna get no limits 2,which is a real life based rollercoaster simulation design game, which is actually used by real rollercoaster manufacturers.So yeah, ill be getting 40+ Track Styles an better environments,and customizeable terrain.Sorry to break it to ya,but PC MASTER RACE.
      
      
      squarebananas (November 2, 2015 1:19 pm)
      
      "No Limits 2" looks great. The graphics are excellent which is expected when the recommended RAM for "No Limits 2" is 10 times that available on the Xbox 360. Originally the Xbox 360 was only going to have 256 MB of shared RAM but even after they increased it to 512 MB it wasn't really enough.
      
      By the way there's a 20% discount on "No Limits 2" on Steam but it ends in a few hours. There will probably be another sale during the last weeks of December though.
      
      
      EvilxDeath (November 5, 2015 4:23 am)
      
      Well im glad you understand. Im getting a Toshiba Satellite c55dt-c5245. It has 6gb Ram,1 terrabite memory. 2.3 Ghz, and is quad core. Windows10 is already on it. Once I sell my xbox, I will have no limits 2 Lol.
      
      
      
  • please make Concept coaster craft for Xbox one and new ideas
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      coasterfan8 (August 11, 2015 3:09 am)
      
      dear square bananas I really love concept coaster craft. I just recently got a Xbox one though. And I'm sadden that there's no concept coaster craft on Xbox one because I really love the game and I really love designing coasters. I would be willing to pay 60$ for the game if they had it on Xbox one. And if you do make a sequel for Xbox one here are some ideas. Make it like a whole like a theme park I know you said you couldn't with the 360 limitations maybe the Xbox one though. Add more types of rails for example the Goliath at six flags great America its the biggest wooden coaster they have new unique rail system which would be cool to have In the game. Add different types handle bars. Make the game have real life tracks seating and handle bars. Last thing add more objects for example in last update you added tunnels which was really cool and I always wanted in the game you should add like safety stairs you known like all other life roller coasters have. Here were just some ideas and things I would like to see in the future or a sequel.
      
      
      squarebananas (August 14, 2015 9:10 am)
      
      I'm glad to hear you enjoyed "Concept Coaster Craft" and I agree that a new version on the Xbox One would be great too.
      
      If a Xbox One version ever does happen then I would definitely want to add lots more content with different seat types and more track customisations like adjacent stairs as you have mentioned. With the power of Xbox One's graphic processing unit and its massive increase in RAM compared to the Xbox 360 then making a full theme park game shouldn't be an issue either.
      
      A couple of years ago I actually sent Microsoft a proposal for a Xbox One version of "Concept Coaster Craft". It seemed they were interested as I got invited to a Xbox One developer event in London in December 2013. Since then however I haven't heard much back from them.
      
      I'm hoping to develop a full theme park game for the Xbox One at some point but it all depends on Microsoft. At this stage it seems unlikely that they will give me the development kits and that means I need to wait for them to allow development through retail kits. It is something they have promised to add but they still haven't given a time frame for yet.
      
      I am hoping that "Concept Coaster Craft" will come to the Xbox One at some point though.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      EvilxDeath (September 11, 2015 2:14 am)
      
      Squarebananas, I hope you could add more Seat space and add dual track coasters,and a new RMC track.please consider staying for 360,as for I am a huge fan for concept coaster craft.
      
      
      squarebananas (September 11, 2015 9:40 am)
      
      Thanks. I'm still continuing with development on the Xbox 360 for now as retail kit development isn't available on the Xbox One yet. As there are lots of resource limitations with the Xbox 360 some suggestions are difficult to implement. However I will look into the feasibility of each request and try to find a workaround where possible.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      
  • concept coaster craft Xbox one!!!
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      matthew51317 (September 28, 2014 5:08 am)
      
      So I've been addicted to this game ever since it was released, and I've recently upgraded to an Xbox one. Is there any chance that we could see a sequel released for the Xbox one? That would be so amazing. With how much more powerful the one is compared to the 360, I know that it would be even more addictive than it is now. Please tell me you're working one one??
      
      
      squarebananas (September 29, 2014 10:58 am)
      
      

      Is there any chance that we could see a sequel released for the Xbox one?

      I actually sent Microsoft a proposal for a Xbox One version of Concept Coaster Craft around a year ago. It seemed they were interested as I got invited to a Xbox One developer event in London last December. However since then I haven't heard anything back from them.
      
      I'm hoping to develop a full theme park game for the Xbox One at some point but it all depends on Microsoft. It seems unlikely that they will give me the development kits at this stage which means I need to wait for them to allow development through retail kits. It is something they have promised to add but they haven't given a time frame for yet.
      
      Hopefully Concept Coaster Craft will come to the Xbox One some day though.
      
      
      matthew51317 (September 30, 2014 3:31 am)
      
      A full theme park game would be amazing! Just make sure if you do, you don't change a thing on how to build a rollercoaster. Keep it exactly like coaster craft! You have one guaranteed sale here the second any thing is released on the Xbox one!! Thanks so much!
      
      
      
  • I want more Coaster Craft!
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      Rudie (January 18, 2014 3:59 pm)
      
      Just wanted to let you know how much I love this great game. I still play it, probably more than any AAA game. I'd love to see a sequel with wooden coasters. Further, and I realize this is probably beyond the realm of feasibility, it would be awesome to incorporate the coaster craft building system into a full theme park simulation game. Mainly, I'd like the game to somehow score my coasters, like with a popularity meter that takes into account the design features people appreciate in real life coasters.
      
      
      squarebananas (January 20, 2014 11:16 am)
      
      Thank you. I'm glad to hear your enjoying the game.
      
      I'm looking into the feasibility of adding wooden style roller coasters at the moment. It would be nice to have lots of wooden columns and cross beams under the track, but there are a lot of challenges with doing this (which you might have read in other threads) such as what would happen when rolling the track upside down and when adding prefabs. One solution might be to have wooden beams and supports on the track but reused the current column system with minor graphical changes.
      
      It would be good to develop a theme park designer game but there would be a number of limitations with the Xbox to overcome in order to do this. For example the Xbox just about manages to draw 16 avatars at a time but more than that would be needed for an entire theme park. Also placing 100% of the track on "Concept Coaster Craft" almost uses up all of the Xbox's RAM (it only has 512MB of RAM which is shared for graphics as well). So a theme park designer game would need to be developed quite differently from "Concept Coaster Craft" with a number of things simplified so that it would run on the Xbox. With a lot of work it would be possible though.
      
      With scoring the idea was that the track sharing/rating system would accomplish this. I guess this doesn't take into account aspects such as how realistic the roller coaster is though. While it would be possible to add an automated scoring system, it might be difficult to determine what parameters should be used and how. For example what would be a good/bad total track length, rate of acceleration and speed. The aspects one person might appreciate could be very different to another person. So while its a good idea it might be a bit difficult to implement.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (February 20, 2014 4:02 am)
      
      Is there going to be an update in 2014 just curious on whatbthe update is going to have. Its hard to make adjustments to this game because its an indie game.
      
      You should have a dowlownd of roller coasters
      
      So that way u u dont have to try to mess up yourself and try it not saying ubhave to bit it would be cool if there is.......
      
      
      squarebananas (February 21, 2014 10:33 am)
      
      I started development on the update last month. So far I have added a multi-direction carriage mode, direct speed control mode (an alternative to the current acceleration adjustment system), design height indicator and metric option. At the moment I'm working on alternative track styles which will include wooden type roller coasters.
      
      Once the coding is done there will still be content aspects to add such as a few extra carriages, environments and banners. After that there will be extensive testing done to make sure everything will work as before and also getting the update approved (approval could take anything between 2 days up to 3 weeks). So it's a bit early to say when it will be ready, but I'm hoping to post some preview screenshots on the website in a few weeks time.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (February 22, 2014 10:54 pm)
      
      Thanks thats helps is it going to be in a update or add on
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (February 23, 2014 4:50 pm)
      
      Is the boomerang type that starts it off going to be on there
      
      
      squarebananas (February 24, 2014 12:52 pm)
      
      

      Thanks thats helps is it going to be in a update or add on

      The additions will all be part of a free update. Once the update is complete it will prompt you to download it simply by starting up the game from the dashboard.
      
      

      Is the boomerang type that starts it off going to be on there

      With the multi-direction mode you will be able to set an imcomplete track as either forward-fall, forward-reverse, reverse-fall or reverse-forward. To create a reverse incline to start off the roller coaster you would just need to set the mode to reverse-forward and build an incline track at the rear of the platform.
      
      Hope that answers your questions.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (March 1, 2014 1:46 am)
      
      Great
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (March 2, 2014 4:01 am)
      
      Update almost here cant wait till it arrives ill be on this like crazy for the wodden rollercoasters and reverse backword rollercoaster........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (March 7, 2014 7:36 pm)
      
      Im bored with they need to accept the update already impatient
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (March 24, 2014 2:59 am)
      
      I was wondering why cant I make a rollercoaster like a real one like the patriot or the mamba?????
      
      
      squarebananas (March 24, 2014 12:04 pm)
      
      It should be possible to make similar looking roller coasters to ones that exist in real life. In fact there are a few real life roller coasters that people have created and shared already. I guess it might be helpful to have a few photos and a youtube video available on another screen when trying to recreate such roller coasters though.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (April 3, 2014 9:40 pm)
      
      Update!!!!!!!!!!! I want it all
      
      
      squarebananas (April 4, 2014 4:31 pm)
      
      Since the news post on the main page, development and testing of the update has been completed. All that is left now is for the update to go through the approval process.
      
      Last time it took 6 days from submission to release, however the time it generally takes can vary quite a bit, especially if an issue is found. Hopefully it will go through without issues though after the extensive testing that has already been done.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (April 10, 2014 9:07 pm)
      
      Not letting me update
      
      
      squarebananas (April 10, 2014 9:07 pm)
      
      

      Not letting me update

      Not sure why that would be. Maybe it takes time for the update to be uploaded by Microsoft to the marketplace for each country. I can see 40 players in the recent player list who have played the game since the update was released so its working for some people at least. Maybe just try loading it up every so often.
      
      
      deal (April 14, 2014 2:11 pm)
      
      could we add props to our rollercoaster world and make our own terrain and add water rivers
      
      
      squarebananas (April 15, 2014 7:22 am)
      
      

      could we add props to our rollercoaster world and make our own terrain and add water rivers

      I would really like to add all these features, however the issue is the performance and available resources on the Xbox 360.
      
      Originally I was considering having placeable scenery objects but I decided to keep the scenery simple due to performance (with very large tracks, 16 avatars being animated, thousands of collision checks, background rating sharing/track downloading, etc. there isn't a lot of room to add more features). So while placeable scenery would be possible this would probably have to be done at the expense of severely reducing the maximum amount of placeable track.
      
      If I did ever make a follow-up game on a more powerful system though (for example PC or Xbox One if they allow open development) then placable scenery and editable terrain would definitely be things to add.
      
      
      deal (April 15, 2014 7:18 pm)
      
      

      could we add props to our rollercoaster world and make our own terrain and add water rivers I would really like to add all these features, however the issue is the performance and available resources on the Xbox 360. Originally I was considering having placeable scenery objects but I decided to keep the scenery simple due to performance (with very large tracks, 16 avatars being animated, thousands of collision checks, background rating sharing/track downloading, etc. there isn't a lot of room to add more features). So while placeable scenery would be possible this would probably have to be done at the expense of severely reducing the maximum amount of placeable track. If I did ever make a follow-up game on a more powerful system though (for example PC or Xbox One if they allow open development) then placable scenery and editable terrain would definitely be things to add.

      would it be hard to add props
      
      
      squarebananas (April 16, 2014 8:19 am)
      
      

      would it be hard to add props

      By props I take it you mean placeable scenery rather than the fixed scenery currently in the game. Drawing scenery models and adding a menu to place them wouldn't be too hard, but like I mentioned in the last post the issue would be performance and available resources on the Xbox 360.
      
      Placing the maximum amount of track already uses all RAM (the Xbox 360 only has 512MB of shared RAM which is also used for graphics) and a higher poly count would cause frame drops and the gameplay to stutter. So while I would like to add things like placeable scenery and terrain editing, these features would really need to wait for a more powerful system or the game would need to be severely changed to reduce resource usage (for example reduce maximum placable track, reduce number of avatars on screen, etc.) which wouldn't work very well.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (May 17, 2014 8:37 pm)
      
      It wod be cool if we had double trains going or dueling coasters.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (May 17, 2014 8:59 pm)
      
      And inverted prefab tracks should be in a prefab track all the b&m coasters to
      
      
      squarebananas (May 19, 2014 10:40 am)
      
      

      It wod be cool if we had double trains going or dueling coasters.

      Having the carriages going around separately instead of in a train would be a lot of work but it might be possible. The interesting things to solve would be how the interval between carriages would be set and that on a sudden slow section of track the carriages wouldn't collide with each other. More prefab parts would be possible to.
      
      
      mmosqueda001 (June 1, 2014 9:58 pm)
      
      You can put a chain lifted coaster instead of the one on Here cause it looks weird but yeah two trains at once would be cool
      
      
      
  • Ideas for next Update (2014 Update?)
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      BEAMER3K (December 13, 2013 11:00 am)
      
      OK, I am liking this game a lot, the building and the riding of coasters.
      
      The few things I have in mind are a few possible ideas for a future update in 2014. Some of these things have been mentioned before, some have not.
      
      IDEA 1: Wooden coasters. I would love to see the classic woodie in this game. I recommend that you do whatever has to be done to get wooden roller coasters into the game. If it involves reducing the maximum amount of track that can be placed, then do it. I am okay with that.
      
      The amount of track that can currently be placed is a little high. Reduce it by 20 to 40 percent.
      
      IDEA 2: In design mode I would like an indicator of how high the track segment I'm placing is. Is it 70ft. or 170ft.? Having this type of feature would be useful. Include imperial and metric measuring systems.
      
      IDEA 3: The ability to raise and lower the main station platform. I would say place a limit on how high the platform can be raised. But give enough room for track to pass under the platform.
      
      IDEA 4: A track segment which can reverse the direction of the train. Useful when making non-complete circuit launch coasters. Also give a feature that tells the coaster how many times it can go to the track behind the platform and in front of the platform. In the case of a Boomerang type coaster, twice on the primary lift (first time then drop back down it through the station into the boomerang and loop) Once on the second lift hill, drop back down the second lift hill, through the loop and boomerang backwards, through the station again, up the first lifthill again, then lowering back down into the station. Ride over. Can this be done in the game?
      
      IDEA 5: How about allowing the player to place a second platform right next to the first or close to it (or anywhere on the map) for racing or dueling coasters? Both coasters can share the same track limit meter.
      
      These are just some of the ideas I have. I would like to see them all make it into the game eventually.
      
      Thank you.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 13, 2013 3:28 pm)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions. I'm glad to hear your enjoying the game.
      
      I've been working on a few other projects recently so there aren't any planned updates at the moment. Another update would be good though and it wouldn't be too hard to add more content like carriages and environments.
      
      Adding an optional height indicator wouldn't be too hard to add as well as a setting to switch between imperial and metric measurements.
      
      While all of the other suggestions are definitely possible they would require a huge amount of work to implement as fundamental parts of the game would need to be completely redesigned. For example the track that runs through the station is the only track that is fixed in place and a lot of different code uses this as a reference point which never changes. Also the game is designed so that only one station track will ever exist and that the carriages will only ever travel in one direction. While it is possible to redesign the game so that new features (such as ideas 3, 4 & 5) could be added, it would actually be very hard to do (probably several hundred hours of work).
      
      Thinking about how the carriage system works though it wouldn't be too hard to have a travel backwards carriage option (as the carriage would still only travel in one direction around the track). I realise that wouldn't be as good as your multi-directional track idea but it might be fun.
      
      With regards to wooden tracks another main issue to solve would be how to handle the column sections (the wooden planks between the tracks would be easy to add in comparison). The current iron column system took around 2 months of work to write due to the fact the columns had to dynamically fix onto track without going through the track itself, other surrounding tracks or other surrounding columns. With a wooden track though there would be far more columns all relatively close together as well as cross beams between them increasing the complexity. Also with wooden columns directly below the track (whereas iron column have a perpendicular column first) I not sure how rolling the track upside down or adding prefab sections could be handled. I did want to add wooden tracks in a previous update, however the more I think about it the more complex I realise the issues would be to resolve.
      
      Thanks again for the great ideas, I will give each one a bit more thought in case I can think of a easier way to implement some of them.
      
      
      Rudie (January 18, 2014 4:01 pm)
      
      A height indicator would be great.
      
      
      
  • LAVA TRACK!!!! WHEN!?!?!?!
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      gilgameshrulz (December 7, 2013 8:13 pm)
      
      when will we see the Invisible Lava Track Update.
      
      and don't say it is already available
      
      
      orangechickens (December 8, 2013 10:46 pm)
      
      gilgameshrulz, I've been looking for you, HEIST?
      
      
      squarebananas (December 8, 2013 10:55 pm)
      
      A lava environment sounds like a good idea, although I guess that would mean you could drop avatars out of their seats into burning magma which would probably break a few rules. Also the lava effect might be difficult to make realistic, but as you suggested making the lava invisible would probably solve that issue.
      
      
      
  • Space elevator??
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      derpedsean (November 28, 2013 1:53 am)
      
      I downloaded a map that had a fast track with adjustable speed. How do I use this setting? What do I have to unlock?
      
      
      squarebananas (November 28, 2013 11:02 am)
      
      To make speed adjustments first if you are placing track you need to press the B button so the blue track cursor is shown. When you move the cursor over a track section then that section of track will be highlighted red. You can then press the LB & RB buttons to change the speed on that section of track.
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      
  • Ideas
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      coasterboy (July 11, 2013 4:33 pm)
      
      Hi there,
      
      I was so happy when I spotted this game in the dark basement of the indie games department. After a bit of building and riding, I have thought up a few ideas for you to think about:
      
      1. Set Loops and vertical drops
      
      I am finding it hard to get a perfect circle or vertical drop and I feel it would help if there were add able loops or vertical drops.
      
      2. Clear Whole Track
      
      It would make the game easier if there was such an option. On a few of my builds, I have felt I could it better but would have to clear it and at the moment I can't. I have to exit the build and create an entirely new coaster
      
      Hope my ideas can work and improve the game for other users
      
      Thanks
      
      
      squarebananas (July 15, 2013 12:14 pm)
      
      Thank you for the feedback.
      
      With regards to placing loops, have you already tried the loops available in the prefab track parts list. (When placing track you can press the Y button to open the prefab track parts list.) Hopefully that will help out if you haven't already done so.
      
      With vertical drops, when moving the cursor track through vertical/horizontal rotations you should see that the angle snaps momentarily. This is because the pitch angle will automatically snap to vertical/horizontal rotations when close to these angles (so for example 93º would automatically snap to a 90º upward rotation). The roll angle will also snap at 90º angles in a similar manner.
      
      With clearing the track I guess it only takes a few seconds to return to the main menu and create a new track but it might take some time to reselect the track and carriage settings. I will look into a clear track option as it shouldn't be too much work to add although there aren't any planned updates at the moment due to other projects.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      gilgameshrulz (December 7, 2013 8:19 pm)
      
      have you tried the Lava Track?
      
      
      
  • Awesome Update
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      blade4u98 (May 14, 2013 6:07 am)
      
      Just tried the new update and I gotta say, bravo sir, bravo. Theres so much freedom now, that I dont know what to do with myself lol. Anyway, the update was way more than I expected, good job! Question. What does the Super Gravity track do?
      
      
      squarebananas (May 14, 2013 12:59 pm)
      
      Thank you very much. Glad to hear your enjoying the update.
      
      The "Super Gravity" environment applies over 10 times the normal gravity when a carriage or avatar is off the track. It doesn't affect the normal on track acceleration/deceleration and track speed settings though. In other words when a carriage comes off the track or an avatar falls out their seat they will fall very quickly to the ground with little bounce.
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      blade4u98 (May 15, 2013 4:09 am)
      
      Oh ok cool. Will there be anymore updates, or are you moving on to other projects? The only other add-on I can think of that would be cool, was if you could set the constant speed of the whole track at once. So like if I set the track to 50 mph, it would boost to 50 mph from the start, and keep that speed until the end, never speeding up, and never slowing down. Is there a chance you are giving away any codes for the secret unlockable tracks and coasters?
      
      
      squarebananas (May 15, 2013 7:44 am)
      
      I'm working on some other projects at the moment but I haven't ruled out more updates in the future.
      
      I guess it wouldn't be too hard to add a constant speed option. A variable/constant speed option could be added to the track settings menu and when its in constant speed mode the individual track speed settings could be hidden as well.
      
      The bonus content is available as rewards for players who also own "Avatar Adventurers Online" and "Extreme Jogging". These codes are unique for each player. In the future I might do some code giveaways for some games, however I'm only given a limited number of codes that can be handed out.
      
      
      blade4u98 (May 15, 2013 11:20 am)
      
      You are the greatest! How about whoever has the highest rated track in Concept Coaster Craft, gets a code for Avatar Adventures Online....hehehehehe.
      
      
      squarebananas (May 16, 2013 5:07 am)
      
      

      How about whoever has the highest rated track in Concept Coaster Craft, gets a code for Avatar Adventures Online....hehehehehe.

      Sounds good to me!
      
      
      blade4u98 (May 16, 2013 7:18 am)
      
      I hope its still me LOL.
      
      
      
  • A question about sharing
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      blade4u98 (April 1, 2013 8:06 am)
      
      Yeah, its been awhile, but I still enjoy the game and Im looking forward to the updates. My question is this. Do I have to have CCC running for people to see my created tracks?
      
      
      squarebananas (April 2, 2013 9:02 am)
      
      As with all Indie games the network hosts are players who are currently playing the game. When you share a track it is available for others to download while you are playing, however anyone that downloads a track will automatically reshare it for others as well.
      
      So for example your "Blast Off Into Adventure!" track was originally only available to download from you, but when others downloaded it then they shared it as well. Now that hundreds of players have downloaded that track then there is almost always someone hosting it.
      
      With so many tracks now shared though it might be difficult to get new tracks noticed. Download lists are sorted by best rated first though so getting a few ratings on any track will probably get it noticed and downloaded more.
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      blade4u98 (April 4, 2013 4:44 pm)
      
      Ok thank you.
      
      
      
  • update?
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      matthew51317 (February 10, 2013 10:32 pm)
      
      Hello.. I was just wondering when we might expect an update? I in no way are trying to rush one, as I'm sure its a difficult process, I'm just really excited for more content!
      
      
      squarebananas (February 11, 2013 11:07 am)
      
      I started development on the update last week. So far I have added spinning carriage speed control, a share option while in design mode, flexible prefab track roll placement and also prepared fixes for most of the minor bugs.
      
      This week I am hoping to finish the coding aspects of the project. If that goes to plan then the content aspects such as the extra carriages, environments and prefab parts would be done in the week(s) after. After that there will be extensive testing to be done to make sure everything will work as before and also getting the update approved (approval could take anything between 2 days up to 3 weeks).
      
      So a good guess for the release would be 3 to 6 weeks from now. Of course that is if everything goes to plan which hopefully it will. There isn't much point of posting screenshots yet as only code changes have been done, but once some new content is ready I will try to make an update preview news post.
      
      
      matthew51317 (February 11, 2013 7:47 pm)
      
      Awesome, Im really excited! Thanks!
      
      
      jport323 (July 12, 2014 8:40 pm)
      
      Hi I am wondering if there is going to be another update this year or next year
      
      
      squarebananas (July 14, 2014 10:22 am)
      
      

      Hi I am wondering if there is going to be another update this year or next year

      Recently I have been working on a few other projects, so it is a bit early to say at the moment. Another update would be possible though.
      
      
      
  • Other ideas or things you can think about adding
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      sarin nerve (February 4, 2013 2:02 pm)
      
      Well how to what I'am think would be fun for this game I don't have an idea how to do it. Just something to think about having your online friends in the cars with you. Next when you building having the option to speed up the train or so it down where you want. Others is wood track do there's nothing like wood with the sound of riding on wood or they way it feels when your riding on it in the real world. More train looks and options or have the name of the coaster over the station or a sign at the first hill point or no return or hands up you could go all the way out on props. Maps that have tunnels or put them in the list could go on and on. I don't know if it would be fun to have that for others out there or it could be done.
      
      
      squarebananas (February 5, 2013 9:57 am)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions. A few ideas have been raised already on the forums so in some places I have copied and pasted the responses.
      
      I agree that it would be good to have your xbox live friends added to your carriages. However this would be difficult for a few reasons. Unlike arcade games with indie games you cannot load avatars from a central xbox live server, you can only load a friend's avatar when playing in an online match with them. While the game does have network sessions for sharing tracks in the background, it isn't really designed to let lots of friends join and ride together as well. If you have other profiles on your xbox though then when they are signed-in on other controllers they will be automatically added to seats in the carriage.
      
      With regards to different track types such as wooden ones the reason I decided to use iron columns spaced every 50 feet was because they are made of only 4 boxes each which reduces the polygon count and in turn increases the maximum amount of placeable track. If I were to add different track types then either the amount of beams/supports/columns would need to be very similar to how they are already or the amount of placeable track would need to be reduced for certain track types.
      
      Having the name of the track shown on a billboard is a great idea. It will be a bit of work but it shouldn't be too hard to add. If I do add this then it will probably be given a fixed position to simplify additional collision work and there would probably be different styles of billboard to choose from with an option to turn it on/off as well.
      
      Originally I was considering having placeable scenery objects but I decided to keep the scenery simple due to performance (with very large tracks, 16 avatars being animated, thousands of collision checks, background rating sharing/track downloading, etc. there isn't a lot of room to add more features). So while placeable scenery would be possible this would probably have to be done at the expense of reducing the maximum amount of placeable track.
      
      It might be possible to add some pre-placed tunnel sections to some of the new environments (a bit like the tower blocks in one of the existing environments). So although the player wouldn't be able to place tunnels themselves they would be able to place track for example through a tunnel section on a new environment.
      
      With regards to the update, some of the things I am already definitely looking to add at the moment are as follows: carriage spin speed adjustment, more flexible prefab track placement, share/rate options while in design/ride modes, minor bug fixes and more carriage/environment/prefab types.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      
  • Another Idea for an update
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      matthew51317 (January 31, 2013 2:47 pm)
      
      How possible would it be to increase the number of cars per train, some only allow 2 and I'd like to run maybe 10 per train. Also for longer tracks be able to run more than one train at a time. Are any of those doable??
      
      
      squarebananas (February 1, 2013 11:43 am)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions.
      
      There are two limitations which determine the maximum number of carriages for each carriage type.
      
      Firstly it is expensive performance-wise to draw avatars, so therefore there is a limit of 16 avatars being draw to the screen to prevent game slowdowns. In some indie games fake 2D avatars are used to give the impression that more avatars are being drawn. So for example in a sports game they might use 3D avatars for the main players and lots of fake 2D avatars for the crowd. However with this game it wouldn't really be possible to use fake 2D avatars due to the close adjustable camera angles.
      
      So that's why a carriage with 8 seats has a maximum of 2 carriages and a carriage with 4 seats has a maximum 4 carriages (both having a maximum of 16 avatars being drawn).
      
      Secondly the platform has a fixed length and all of the carriages need to fit on it. So where a carriage only has 1 seat there might be a maximum of 6 carriages so that the carriages don't fall off the end.
      
      I guess it might be possible to start each carriage at a different time though and have carriages running on different parts of each track. It would probably be fairly complex to add now but I will look into it some more.
      
      With regards to the update, some of the things I am definitely looking to add at the moment are as follows: carriage spin speed adjustment, more flexible prefab track placement, share/rate options while in design/ride modes, minor bug fixes and more carriage/environment/prefab types.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      
  • Possible updates??
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      matthew51317 (January 18, 2013 11:32 am)
      
      First off, I'd like to say how much I love this game. I've been waiting for a game like this on XBL for a long time now. For any future updates that you might do, how possible would it be to add tunnels, or even let the coasters go underground like Roller Coaster Tycoon 3. Also wooden coaster would be an awesome adition, but I know that would most likely be difficult. But the tunnels is top of my wish list to see added to this amazing game!!
      
      
      squarebananas (January 19, 2013 1:08 pm)
      
      I'm glad to hear your enjoying the game.
      
      Tunnels, underground sections and wooden coasters would be great although fairly difficult to add into the game. Also most of these would have a performance impact and the maximum amount of placeable track would need to be reduced to accommodate the additional graphics processing.
      
      I am hoping to develop an update though and I will possibly be adding new environments. It might be possible to add some pre-placed tunnel/underground sections to some of these new environments (a bit like the tower blocks in one of the existing environments). So although the player wouldn't be able to place tunnels or cut away the ground themselves they would be able to place track for example through a tunnel section on a new environment.
      
      With regards to different track types such as wooden ones the reason I decided to use iron columns spaced every 50 feet was because they are made of only 4 boxes each which reduces the polygon count and in turn increases the maximum amount of placeable track. If I were to add different track types then either the amount of beams/supports/columns would need to be very similar to how they are already or the amount of placeable track would need to be reduced for certain track types.
      
      Thanks for the suggestions.
      
      
      
  • Rainbow Road On Concept Coaster Craft (Mario Kart 64 Track) Video
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      Grunt Attack (December 22, 2012 9:14 am)
      
      I thought to myself this forum needs more attention so i decide to showcase my latest track i made on squarebanananas game Concept Coaster Craft. I suppose dont get enough credit on my work sadly
      
      One of my favorite Mario Kart race tracks has been recreated on Concept Coaster Craft
      
      https://youtu.be/6P_tOSclZ18
      
      
      Moguta (December 22, 2012 12:34 pm)
      
      ♪It's called a road, Its called a Rainbow Road.
      
      Its is a road that you go.
      
      Its a road that you go when you die!♪
      
      
      squarebananas (December 22, 2012 3:18 pm)
      
      Nice roller coaster! I actually already tried this track the other day and rated it up.
      
      Also I'm not sure why the forum formatting isn't working correctly with a youtube video post. When I get chance I will try to fix the website code so that videos fit inside the post area and any text isn't cut off.
      
      Thanks for the post.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 23, 2012 1:15 am)
      
      Also sometimes it wont save my post and Ill have to type everything twice. Are there really so few copies of this game out there? I busted my ass making some of these tracks and they only get 1 or 2 ratings. Just finished Ninja Turtles The Ride roller coaster.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 23, 2012 10:34 am)
      
      I haven't seen it not post before but I will look into that.
      
      I guess the tracks are being downloaded and ridden but not everyone decides to rate it afterwards, probably in the same way most people don't rate games on the dashboard. Your "Blast Off Into Adventure!" track currently has 10 ratings though and when I sort by rating it appears in the very top position of my track list.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 24, 2012 6:26 am)
      
      I have a request. Can you maybe make it so you can set the speed of the coaster cars that spin around? I tried to use them, but shortly after the coaster starts, they are spinning too fast to enjoy the ride. Try my tracks, Silent Hill, Ninja Turtles The Ride, and Classic Favorites 2. Is KingExDeath the creator?
      
      
      squarebananas (December 24, 2012 1:28 pm)
      
      At the moment the speed at which the carriages spin is directly related to the track speed. So at around 25 MPH the carriage will rotate once every 7 seconds and at around 100 MPH the carriage will rotate once every 2 seconds.
      
      It would be possible to add a spinning speed control I guess. A single adjuster to change the spin speed over the entire track would be fairly easy to add to the carriage settings menu. However adding a spin speed per track section would be much harder although still possible. Also the profile you mentioned is one of my accounts.
      
      With regards to the youtube video post at the top I think the forum formatting will now be shown correctly as the embedded video size has been reduced slightly. Hopefully that will fix it for now.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 25, 2012 9:03 am)
      
      Yeah, I meant set the speed in general, not for every piece of track. Blast off into Adventure 2 coming soon. Spent alot of time on this track.
      
      
      Grunt Attack (December 31, 2012 9:57 am)
      
      The video broke that's unusual
      
      it's odd you can't actually embed the video so you would be able adjust size of the post
      
      
      squarebananas (December 31, 2012 10:37 am)
      
      I was trying to adjust the size of the video the other day so the text on posts would be displayed correctly. Somehow it got rid of the video though so I reinserted. It is working fine for me but when I tried it with google chrome just it is only showing a white box.
      
      Just to test how embedded videos work I will post the video again using both the IFrame and flash options while changing the width.
      
      Edit: Ok I think I have figured it out. Before I thought you were using the embed options on the post toolbar but I realise now simply posting a youtube video link will automatically convert it to an embedded video. So basically I just had to change the width setting for that automatic conversion. I will just edit your posts so the video widths are correct. Also any future video posts should be shown correctly now.
      
      
      
  • Ive been wating for an Indie game like this!
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      blade4u98 (December 17, 2012 1:00 am)
      
      I was praying that we would one day get a coaster creation game like this one on XBLI, and here it is! And best of all, we can share tracks! I hope this game will get many updates in the future. Great work guys!
      
      
      squarebananas (December 17, 2012 12:22 pm)
      
      Thank you very much, I'm glad to hear your enjoying the game.
      
      Like you I wasn't sure why there wasn't a roller coaster game on Xbox Live Indie Games, so I decided to make it. I only finished working on this game recently so I haven't thought much about updates yet although one would be possible.
      
      Out of interest what would you like to see in an update?
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 17, 2012 7:48 pm)
      
      Maybe if you could place preset tracks pieces at any angle. Start the coaster at any height. New coaster cars are always welcome. Other than that, I dont know. The game is pretty awesome already.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 18, 2012 11:16 am)
      
      Thanks. It would be difficult to allow prefab tracks to be placed at any angle but I guess there could be vertical alternative prefab tracks rather than only horizontal types. So at the moment while an almost flat track will be automatically levelled out before the horizontal prefab track the same could happen when almost vertical.
      
      Thanks again for the suggestions.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 18, 2012 10:11 pm)
      
      Anything you add would be great! I never complain about free updates lol. What about different track types? You remember those old wooden coasters?
      
      
      squarebananas (December 19, 2012 10:29 am)
      
      Wooden beams would be possible I guess.
      
      The reason I decided to use iron columns spaced every 50 feet is because they are made of only 4 boxes each which reduces the polygon count and in turn increases the maximum amount of placeable track.
      
      If I were to add different track types then either the amount of beams/supports/columns would need to be very similar to how they are already or the amount of placeable track would need to be reduced for certain track types.
      
      I will think some more about it. Thanks again for the suggestion.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 19, 2012 11:42 am)
      
      You ever thought about doing a game similar to this, but instead you build your own dirtbike track or race car track? I dont know, theres something about a creating and then experiencing the creation type of game, that I love. Ive always been a big fan of games like that. Rollercoaster Tycoon, SimCity. Those types. Well Ive been spreading the word about CCC, hope it helps.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 20, 2012 10:29 am)
      
      I haven't really thought of making a race track creation game but I agree that it would definitely be good to make more games that involve user created content and content sharing. Developing games is quite a lengthy process though (Concept Coaster Craft took about 8 months in total) so when I do decide on the next project it will probably take several months to develop.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      Grunt Attack (December 22, 2012 9:32 am)
      
      

      Start the coaster at any height.

      We really need that in the next update
      
      
      squarebananas (December 22, 2012 3:17 pm)
      
      

      Start the coaster at any height.

      We really need that in the next update

      There are a few things with this which would make this fairly difficult to add now. Firstly the station the roller coaster starts at is really designed to be on the ground as the columns and staircase are made to just touch the floor, so alternative station models would be needed. Secondly the track that runs through the station is the only track that is fixed in place and a lot of different code uses this as a reference point. So while it definitely would be possible to add this it would not be as easy as some other additions.
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 26, 2012 8:46 pm)
      
      I just had a wonderful idea! What if when finish building a track, you could go in to change the colors and make parts of the track invisible! Think of the possibilities!
      
      
      squarebananas (December 27, 2012 9:49 am)
      
      By make parts of the track invisible do you mean turn parts on/off like all of the columns or all of the rails or do you mean make certain track sections invisible (like when you change track speed)? The first wouldn't be too hard to add but the second would be.
      
      Also I downloaded your "Blast Off Into Adventure 2" track yesterday and gave it 5 stars. Nice work!
      
      
      blade4u98 (December 27, 2012 9:57 am)
      
      Yes, like making all colomns or all rails invisible or making whole track invisible. That would be soooo awesome. Thanks for rating the new track, it took a long time to make.
      
      
      
  • Great game!
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      Trollmaster51 (December 16, 2012 6:31 pm)
      
      When I bought this game, I first saw the pictures and I was wowed by how the game looked. Then I downloaded the trial and it was awesome. So I bought and made some awesome coasters, I just wanted to ask is this game going to have updates.
      
      Thanks in advance.
      
      Signed, Trollmaster.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 17, 2012 12:17 pm)
      
      I'm glad to hear your enjoying the game.
      
      Concept Coaster Craft has taken about 8 months to develop and I only finished working on it recently, so I haven't thought much about updates yet. An update would be a possible although after spending so much time on this already it would also be good to start on a new project. I guess it would be fairly easy to add more carriages and environments though.
      
      Out of interest what would you like to see in an update?
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      Trollmaster51 (December 17, 2012 10:54 pm)
      
      It would be nice to see new preset tracks, new carriages, background.
      
      Some new physics like going to fast would derail the cart (if you can do that) , but other than that the game is stupendous.
      
      Edit: I also think you should add coasters like water coasters, etc.
      
      
      squarebananas (December 18, 2012 11:18 am)
      
      Thanks. I guess it would be possible to add a derailment option that would remove the clamp wheels under the carriage base section. Water coasters would be great. The only issue with water though is it is quite complex to draw and would have a performance impact. I guess it would be possible but the maximum amount of placeable track would need to be reduced to accommodate the additional graphics processing requirement for environments with water.
      
      Thanks again for the suggestions.
      
      
      
• Extreme Jogging

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• Avatar Adventurers Online

  • Gutted that I only have the demo! >_<
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      Blayer98 (January 22, 2018 10:23 pm)
      
      Really wish I purchased this game now :/
      
      I think it would be interesting to port this to Nintendo Switch, I mean, it has Miis so that's a replacement for Xbox Live Avatars lol, but that's just what I think.
      
      Really wish I could buy this game >_<
      
      
      squarebananas (January 29, 2018 2:52 pm)
      
      I had hoped Microsoft would keep the store open longer as well, but unfortunately that didn't happen.
      
      With regards Nintendo Switch, I haven't looked into the development process much but my understanding is the Nintendo program is a very controlled environment. Whereas the 360 indies program was open for anyone to publish, most consoles may allow open development but publishing to a store requires a lot of approval steps. I'll look into it more but at the moment it doesn't look like a platform I could target. I agree though that using Miis in place of avatars would be great.
      
      
      
  • Question
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      Unknown (October 30, 2017 5:08 am)
      
      I know this might not be fully possible but are you able to convert AAO into a pc game?
      Or maybe put it on steam just like the Xbox 360 indie game "CastleMiner Z"?
      
      
      squarebananas (October 30, 2017 3:15 pm)
      
      Since the Xbox 360 phase out started I've been learning more about the development process for PC and mobile. So PC ports of some games may happen in the future, although it's a bit early to say for certain.
      
      One of the major challenges with any porting will be that many of my Xbox 360 games relied heavily on the use of Xbox Live networking / Xbox avatars and these won't be available on other platforms. I think these functions will probably take the most time to develop alternatives for or find replacements to when porting.
      
      Over the last couple of months though I've been working on porting code to the Xbox One for potentially releasing games on the Creators Collection section. However as this also doesn't currently support avatars or network sessions the kinds of games I can port or develop for this platform will be limited as well.
      
      
      Unknown (October 31, 2017 3:52 am)
      
      alright cool can't wait
      
      
      
  • Thanks for the fun
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      JustSomeGuy (August 6, 2017 11:46 pm)
      
      Man... I used to play this years ago. A lot of fun too. I wish i could play it again but lost my 360. Many thanks for the memories.
      
      
      squarebananas (August 7, 2017 3:02 pm)
      
      Thanks for the post. I'm glad to hear you used to enjoy playing it.
      
      
      
  • Things I would like in a sequel to AAO
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      TheToxicWildhog (January 13, 2013 7:27 am)
      
      as much as i have enjoyed the updates SB has put effort into, there are somethings that may never simply added on as an update. and, in my opinion (let me emphasize... *ehem* ...IN MY OPINION) there is enough content that i think (THAT I *ehem* THINK) will unlikely be added on in an update to make for a whole sequel. this list of things (that may or may be noted by SB himself, or anyone for that matter) MAY be update-worthy for AAO as it is, however, i doubt it enough to include it in this list. enough intro, lets go! (side note: i hesitate to call this possible sequal "AAO: 2" because that may or may not end up being the name of the game)
      
      -player specializations: in AAO as-is, there is little to differentiate yourself from other players. there's no way to specialize in a specific area, wether it be might (physical damage weapons) or magic (in-combat magical spells). branching leveling options would be terrific! (regenerating AP would be useful for these players)
      
      -level design: a common complaint (not that it bothers me personally) is that all the areas are desolate and bland. i would not mind smaller, more compact areas with more life and more beasts concentrated in a single area. (i do realize this would take playtesting to evaluate if this would work). i would not want all of the areas smaller, just the ones far from towns where there will likely be fewer players.
      
      -quests: as-is, AAO's quests do bot reward exp. that would be a welcome addition in a sequel. i hate the idea of farming these quests (a high level player turning in 100 chicken wings and spider webs) so one idea to counter it would be to extend the required list of items to complete the quest. (5 the first time, 8 the second time, 12 the third time, and so on) and i like the idea of quests that REQUIRE multiple players. another neat idea (that i DO see flaws in) are quest-related items that you can only obtain in a PvP zone.
      
      Mounts/pets: self-explanitory. perhaps a player specialization would allow taming of the beasts in the sequel. or maybe buying a mount is an idea that may see play testing. maybe being on a mount can have in-combat perks. (crab mounts that attack too, horses that increase spell damage, or my favorite fantasy creature... griffons!)
      
      beasts: some additions that would be cool, some challenging some frivolous. giant rats and scorpions, ghosts/spirits, dragons, enemy NPC avatars, and orcs.
      
      misc- some ideas... the ability to revive downed teamates in-combat. the ability to conjure/summon beasts to aid you. lines of quests. bows and arrows.
      
      AAO is an astounding game as-is. however (in my opinion) a video game is never finished. and there is always more that can be added without breaking it.
      
      gamertag: ToxicWildhog
      
      
      squarebananas (January 13, 2013 3:21 pm)
      
      Thanks for the suggestions.
      
      I have noted quite a few ideas already from various discussions such as here (link to general discussions > ideas for new online rpg). At the moment these are only ideas that could be used if I do start development on another online RPG.
      
      With regards to player specialization rather than a fixed development system like AAO I would try to have customisable stats and abilities where possible to make players more unique. Additional ability classes (maybe unlocked by or restricted to certain jobs) would be good as well as skills available for certain equipment types.
      
      The area design in the original AAO release was kept simple to reduce the development time required. Basically most areas were the same square shape with the terrain image, scenery types and exit locations changed. Areas added in updates are slightly more unique such as chaos castle and the tower of trials with its elevator system. Any new RPG would definitely want better area designs though. One of the things I really want to work on is a better terrain system so that outdoor areas could have multi-textured terrain (rather than single texture) with much more height variance (not as flat). Also more unique inside areas like caves with winding paths rather than large open areas would be good.
      
      More repeatable quests would also be good as well as exp rewards. Like you mentioned repeatable quests would need to be designed so that they would be difficult to exploit. I will need to give this more thought but maybe some of the quests could be limited so that they can only be repeated once an hour/day/week. Another solution would be to limit the maximum number of items that can be carried for some certain quest type items.
      
      Mounts, pets, new beast types and enemy NPCs have also been noted from other discussions and they are all things that I would like to add in any new online RPG.
      
      One thing I still need to think about is how a new KO system should work. Like you mentioned adding an ability for team members to recover players is a possible addition. Also I was thinking that other abilities could be added that would give status effects to reduce KO times.
      
      Thanks again.
      
      
      Grunt Attack (February 21, 2013 11:13 am)
      
      I would love cross-platform in next sequel (Windows 8 RT/Phone and Xbox)
      One of main problems of plotting AAO to Windows 8 is it has to be "Xbox Live Enabled Game" so the game can have Xbox Avatar support
      This is one biggest key selling point of the game and it would be 1# selling game in the store , especially if AAO had native keyboard support on the xbox)
      
      Getting "Xbox Live Enabled Game" title would also means
      Leaderboard support: Sadly this isn't in AAO on Xbox
      Achievements support: Yes now you can collect all the achievement and show it off with those forum gamercards
      Proper Game Invite: So if you receive a game invite , it would say something like "Grunt Attack has invited you to play Avatar Adventure Online 2" Instead of usual indie game message and joining your friend's session in progress in AAO sometimes doesn't work.
      Cloud sync: So you could start play AAO on the xbox ,head outside , and play it on your Windows Phone 8.Then the game would load the save , the xbox had saved on the cloud and tatata!!!
      Cross Platform Multiplayer: Yes!!! Pc , Tablets , Phones and xbox players would be able to vs each other.
      
      Available to other regions and counties: If next AAO makes it into arcade game stage , then almost anyone can easly go and buy it from their home country.This means more players online xD
      
      More Content And Maps: If AAO makes it to acade stage . well squarebananas wouldn't have to deal with menory cap limit on Xbox Live Indie Games, which means AAO would be easier to develop.
      Even though the chances of AAO been plotted to another platform are very slim , AAO was amazing made by one man and the only way it could make it as Xbox Live Enabled or even arcade game is if AAO gets sponsored by another company or Microsoft.
      Xbox Indie Games like Shoot 1up , Z0MB1ES ,Amazing Zombie Defense,Doom and Destiny, Li Demons Splatter, Marksman Range ,Square Off, The impossible Game and Block world (There many more but that's all I know) made their way to other platforms athough first 2 I said made it as Xbox Live Enabled phone game.Also, recoding the game would be a a lot of work as well but it's possible it could happen if we put our minds to it
      
      If Squarebananas has no plans of plotting AAO to other platforms , Squarebananas should start planing ideas and designs for the next Xbox as it going to be released very soon.
      As for now AAO needs an update as barely anyone playing AAO online.An update would need , Ingame Voice Chat with indicators to tell who talking.
      That's all I could think of , for a update but for sequel
      It shouldn't have repetitive rooms as it get annoying especially in Tower Of Trials where rooms are all spaced out and the design is boring and simple. Of course it was made like that to keep development short.
      
      I loved AAO and it's probley has one of best video game soundtracks out there.
      I hope my opinion and ideas , improve AAO in any ways.
      
      Thanks for reading
      Cheers From Grunt Attack.
      
      
      squarebananas (February 22, 2013 12:04 pm)
      
      Thanks for the post.
      
      As you mentioned cross platform support, leaderboards, achievements and cloud sync are not available for Xbox Indie games. These functions are only available for professional development companies which are part of the "XBox 360 Registered Developers Program". Such companies are generally expected to have personnel with previous professional game development experience within the industry. Not only do such companies have to be part of Microsoft's programme but in additional they have to purchase development licences which are thought to cost upto around ten thousand dollars a machine (so developing an online RPG would require licences of several tens of thousands of dollars).
      
      Small independent developers though have the option of self publishing on to the Xbox Indie games channel. While this does not allow access to all of the Xbox's functionality (e.g. achievements, leaderboards, web access outside of indie network sessions) it does let small-time developers publish their games onto the marketplace with relative ease and at a fairly low cost ($99/year).
      
      Another limitation, as you mentioned, is Xbox Indie games are only available in a limited number of countries. The list of available countries is determined by Microsoft and Xbox Indie developers cannot release games to countries outside of this list. For countries which have Xbox Live access but do not have Xbox Indie games this restriction is often based on legal reasons with Xbox Indie games being classed as unrated content.
      
      The file package size for Xbox Indie games is limited 500 MB. While this may be small compare to retail disc games, this is still quite a lot of room especially when compressing content and most Indie game do not come close to this limit. When developing the bigger challenge is usually reducing the in-game memory usage as the Xbox only has 512 MB of shared RAM and video card memory. For example while the file size for "Concept Coaster Craft" is only around 25 MB the RAM memory requirement for just storing all of the track polygon/texture data is around 250 MB when running. This 512 MB RAM limit is common for all Xbox applications whether they are Indie games, Acrade games or disc games.
      
      While cross plaform support isn't available for Xbox Indie games with avatars only being available on the Xbox for Indie Games and network sessions being limited to other sessions running the same Xbox Indie game, it is possible to release similar stand alone apps for PC and phones. However there have been many developers already that have ported games from Xbox Indie games to the Windows Phone and most haven't had much success doing so. So from a single developer's point of view it could be a very time consuming process reducing the amount of time to work on new projects with the possibility of little increase on the total downloads of existing games. Of course it has been successful for some developers but they seem to be the exception.
      
      With regards to Microsoft's next generation console, it would be very difficult to plan an Indie game for it at the moment as details of the console have yet to be revealed to the public. So at this point it isn't known how the development process will work and it isn't even know if it will have a self published Indie game marketplace like the Xbox 360 does. I hope that it will but it might not be a high priority for Microsoft at the moment.
      
      As for voice chat support "Avatar Adventurers Online" is designed for text communications with players able to use XBox Live party chat if they wish too. For a networking system voice chat requires a high amount of bandwidth and the game already uses close to the recommended limit when there are 16 players in a session. Excluding voice data by default this keeps the session bandwidth at an acceptable level and increases performance and reliability. It might be possible to include voice chat in any future online RPG but this would probably be an option for certain sessions with lower maximum player counts only (so maybe 16 player session with text chat or 8 player session with voice chat options).
      
      Also I'm very happy to hear you enjoy the soundtrack. I have fairly limited experience with composing music so I'm glad you like it.
      
      Thank you again.
      
      
      hubbard (August 26, 2014 12:17 am)
      
      playing it now. amazing if one person did truly make this game. well done.
      
      just a few topics that everyone already stated but aren't a necessity:
      -better graphics/detailed area layout. it works as is but everything could use a nice once-over.
      -more condensed monster spawning further away from towns.
      -more stuff in general (weapons, monsters, background junk)
      -fix the random world hop issue.(namely, where suddenly players move to a different world even if in a team, and incoming players show up on teams without being invited.)
      -slightly better sense in item power structure (copper is a higher tier than iron?)
      
      great game all in all, but obviously needs some minor fixing. ill be playing it regardless, as its clever and unique.
      
      
      squarebananas (September 1, 2014 2:50 pm)
      
      Thank you, I'm glad to hear your enjoying playing the game. The game itself was a solo project I worked on and released early 2011.
      
      Thanks for the suggestions. Developing another online RPG is something I would like to do, although it is a fairly long term project.
      
      Since developing the game I have learned quite a lot more about 3d graphics. At the time I could only draw a limited number of objects to the screen as the rendering was done fairly inefficiency. Since then I now understand how to draw more complex objects in much greater quantities with much more efficiency, so that shouldn't be an issue in future games.
      
      With the enemy placement, these were spread out to reduce the amount of network activity and reduce the chance of connection lost from data overload (the more nearby enemies the more bandwidth required). Again though this is something I now understand how to improve so this shouldn't be an issue in future games either.
      
      With regards to changing worlds, essentially each world is a player hosting a session. With indie games there are no permanent servers, any network game is actually hosted by a player. Rather than have host/join network game options though I wanted to have an automatic network search system where players would be automatically placed in a world with free space or host if no free space was found. Then if the world host leaves Xbox Live should automatically reselect another player to host the existing world.
      
      After releasing the game though it was found this doesn't quite work as expected. If the host player quits sometimes Xbox live will migrate the host successfully and sometimes it doesn't resulting in the other players joining other worlds rather than staying in the same world together. Unfortunately as this process is done entirely by Xbox Live and cannot be controlled by the developer there isn't a great deal that can be done about this.
      
      After using the public network sessions to find members though, you can use the "Invite Only" network setting to create a private world which will stay up so long as you stay connected to the initial player who created it. Also if you want to rejoin a player after getting disconnected then using "Join Session In Progress" on the guide recent player list should add you to their world so long as there is space.
      
      With future games rather than use an automatic host/join system I would probably use selectable session lists instead with host and join options. I didn't want to do this really as it will encourage players to quit and rejoin other worlds often rather than stick with a single world. At least with using host/join options it should make it more obvious that connection to the world has been lost due to disconnected from a particular player and upon disconnection a selectable list of worlds could be shown.
      
      Thanks again for the suggestions.
      
      
      darkentrees (September 27, 2014 5:04 am)
      
      Thanks so much for this amazing game! My wife and I were reminiscing about the old days of EverQuest - we were there right from the beginning back in 1999, and went through the endless parade of MMOs that have come out since then, until we finally gave up on all of it about 3 years ago. Today she was all nostalgic about those days, and how great it would be if there was something like the old EQ for Xbox, and lo and behold, there was AAO out there and available for a mere dollar
      
      So we gave it a try, and are hopelessly hooked. I'm amazed you were able to create something like this on your own, when I think how many developers must have been on the payroll at SONY back in the day when EQ was all the rage... Here you have recreated something good from the past we thought long lost!
      
      Thanks so much, and we really hope to see a sequel. I think there are more than you might expect looking for something along those lines as well with all the continuing gloom surrounding contemporary MMOs... the disappointments of ESO, the cancellation of Project Titan, and all the vaporware reboots of things like AO, Horizons, etc etc... Maybe the time is ripe for something less 'epic' and absent? Minecraft cashed in on some of that sleeper hit awakening...
      
      
      squarebananas (September 29, 2014 10:53 am)
      
      Thank you, I'm glad to hear that your enjoying playing the game and that it reminds you of the classic MMO era.
      
      I guess most online RPGs have had lots of developers working on them, but by keeping things simple I managed to develop this game solo. However Avatar Adventurers Online is still limited in a lot of ways compared to commercial MMOs. For example it doesn't have thousands of hours of gameplay and it works as a 16-player online RPG rather than a massively multiplayer online game. Because of reasons like this though, it was possible to develop the game without a team of developers.
      
      With developing a new online RPG, I'm hoping to improve on a lot of things although I will keep some things quite simple. One of the challenges will be creating more unique environments and content (less repetitive than AAO) without reducing the amount of potential gameplay and play time as a result.
      
      Thanks again for your comments.
      
      
      xanderpoe (November 4, 2014 3:53 am)
      
      My children and I have just started playing this and we are really enjoying the create your own rpg sections. My son has really taken to it and amazes me daily with the detailed maps that he has created along with an entertaining story line that his sister enjoys helping with. We have dicovered new ways to make the game more interactive such as talking with houses or statues. We have even discovered a way for players to "enter" houses or castles for a more immersive storyline. The only problem we have is a lack of props to work with. We would love to have some decorations, furniture, animals, ect....
      The other game modes are fun too but this is our favorite part. It has quickly become a huge family project, we can't wait to get home each day so we can work on it.
      Thank you for creating such an amazing game!
      
      
      squarebananas (November 4, 2014 10:31 am)
      
      

      My children and I have just started playing this and we are really enjoying the create your own rpg sections.

      Thanks but I think you might have mixed up my game with another developer's game. "Avatar Adventurers Online" is an online RPG but it doesn't have a creative mode. I think the game you might be playing is called "Avatar Legends" and the developer is "Barkers Crest Studio". It looks like their website is http://www.barkerscrest.com/
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      
  • Request Music Sheet For Sundrenched Sands????
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      Grunt Attack (December 15, 2012 1:07 am)
      
      Yes one of my favorite soundtracks in this game (Squarebananas has done excellent job on this soundtrack <3 this piece)
      I hoping this song is actually playable on piano
      I probably uploading a video of my friend playing this song on piano onto my youtube channel
      I just new this forum and if there isn't music sheet available a midi file would be nice
      Thanks and Cheers Grunt Attack
      
      
      squarebananas (December 15, 2012 12:35 pm)
      
      Thank you very much, I'm happy to hear you enjoy the music from Avatar Adventurers Online.
      
      Unfortunately I haven't produced any sheet music for any of the soundtracks as it isn't something anyone as requested before.
      
      However I have just tried converting the original FL Studio file for the piece "Sundrenched Sands" into midi format. It wasn't as straight forward as I thought it would be but I basically removed any unused instruments and replaced the required instruments with similar Midi versions. As it didn't sound right I then raised the wind instruments 2 octaves and removed a few dupulicate bass notes. It still doesn't sound quite the same (probably because various other parameters are not carried across when converting to Midi format) however it should contain enough information to work out the notes played.
      
      I have uploaded the Midi file for you here
      
      Hope that works. Let me know if you require anything else and thanks again.
      
      
      Grunt Attack (December 31, 2012 9:54 am)
      
      Sadly my friend cant be bothered playing it
      
      i couldn't my keyboard around my place but i probably pick song up at a later time. I actually learn how to play piano whilst doing so
      
      If anyone wishes to learn how to play Sundrenched Sands on piano , i posted a video below
      
      Thanks Squarebananas and everyone in this forum have Happy New Year and enjoy your stay
      
      
      squarebananas (December 31, 2012 11:31 am)
      
      No problem and thanks for the video.
      
      The first part of the tutorial looks fine. Later into the track the lead instrument changes though so the left hand section is probably correct but you might want to look at the other instrument's notes for the right hand section.
      
      Quickly looking at the midi file you might want to use the flute notes from bar 21 and the guitar notes from bar 49 for the right hand section (the octaves for these might want changing as well).
      
      
      
  • Trading With Friends Problem
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      YSHW2012 (November 1, 2012 3:57 pm)
      
      Hi all,
      
      I got a level 99 character and completed the whole game on Avatar Adventures, it a very enjoyable game. I now like to help my friends with levelling up and doing mission and quests with them. Now you sould be able to trade items with you friends but when we tried the items just disappeared, we lost 5 moose antlers, 5 sheeps hides, level 73 spell and 100,000 cr just disappeared. please look into this please and Help us Squarebananas we should not have this problem. It's spoils a very good game.
      
      Cheers
      
      YSHW2012
      
      
      squarebananas (November 5, 2012 11:38 am)
      
      Sorry to hear your having problems with the trading system. Were you having problems with every single trade or just occasional trades?
      
      I know I found some issues with the trade system soon after release which were due to internet lag but they were fixed a long time ago. When I have traded with people I know I haven't had issues so I'm not sure why that would occur still.
      
      If you want to message me on Xbox Live (my gamertag is squarebananas) then perhaps we can setup a private session to test trading with your account. Also I will replace the items you have lost.
      
      
      
  • Spoiler Alert!!!
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      ee4life66 (April 17, 2012 4:54 pm)
      
      What are the factors for hero shards?
      
      Observing it would appear you and no party members should not get knocked out during the battle but after that it is random chance for shard drop in the caverns.
      
      
      squarebananas (April 17, 2012 5:03 pm)
      
      The strength, defence, skill, agility and accuracy shards have a 25% drop rate from their respective enemies. After successfully defeating an enemy the only thing that will not be obtained when KO'd is experience points or bonus points. Money and item drops are still received when KO'd if a team member defeats the enemy.
      
      
      ee4life66 (April 17, 2012 5:08 pm)
      
      Major Spoiler but I am tired of level beggars.
      
      Players that want to level up exp/bp after you are 99 go to floor 35 of the Tower of Trials and do the crab circuit.
      
      Once you get to a chain of 30 your earn exp/bp is 2462 which is max. This will be a level in every 16.25 kill or 3 times around the circle. Remember crabs are water critters with low melee and high ap attacks so amnesia first! Maximum time per level is just over 12 minutes per level to keep a solid chain and not waste items I give it 10 seconds between kills. I have not calculated minimum time per level because I am unsure of the respawn rate of the crabs.
      
      If you are not level 99 just kill critters with ~10 levels more then yours for maximum exp and no item waste. Use the website beastiary for locations of critters and your area map for critter triangles and then just run the circuit.
      
      
      
  • General Q&A
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      ee4life66 (March 2, 2012 4:22 pm)
      
      If I was a big dummy and accidentaly on purpose deleted my level 99 game is there any way to recover?
      
      If I wanted to save a game / profile at a level and retrieve it later say on a thumbdrive what is the best method and what files should I move?
      
      P.S. Thanks for the great games SB.
      
      
      squarebananas (March 2, 2012 10:46 pm)
      
      

      If I was a big dummy and accidentaly on purpose deleted my level 99 game is there any way to recover?

      Your save file is stored locally on your Xbox storage device. Unless you have backed up the save file to another storage device it will not be possible to recover your data. This is generally true for most Xbox games.

      If I wanted to save a game / profile at a level and retrieve it later say on a thumbdrive what is the best method and what files should I move?

      The Xbox now supports USB storage devices so a spare USB stick can be used to backup save files (this is possible for most games that save locally and not remotely onto a server).
      
      With more than one storage device connected on the dashboard go to "Settings", then "System", then "Storages Devices", select the required storage device (the one containing the save files), then "Games and Apps", then "Indie Games". Select any save file you want to backup (for example "Avatar Adventurers Online - Save Data") and then "Copy" to transfer it to the second storage device being used for backup. The save file can then be loaded from either storage device. If you restore a save file make sure to check which save file is the correct one before replacing anything.
      
      Hope that helps.
      
      
      FadedSpade91 (March 18, 2012 2:16 am)
      
      Ok, so is there gna b a max attribute cap raise? Cuz melee needs 2 b pumped up a bit lol.
      
      
      squarebananas (March 18, 2012 9:53 am)
      
      

      Ok, so is there gna b a max attribute cap raise? Cuz melee needs 2 b pumped up a bit lol.

      The problem with the attributes is the networking system is designed around players having a maximum stat of 255. As indie games are not forced to update then "Avatar Adventurers Online" has to be backwards compatible with previous versions. Future games will have code to auto kick players who don't update, this will mean that additions/changes could be made without compatible issues.
      
      With regards to attack damage this is intentionally less than ability damage as attacks can be used freely (except for arrows which cost money) whereas abilities use AP which is limited. Although it isn't shown in the game the Hero's Axe and the Supreme Axe actually have a hidden 30% attack power boost. So for the best attack damage use a final axe and agility up. Of course using axes decreases the base AP and skill stats though.
      
      
      oburgy (April 1, 2012 2:47 pm)
      
      In future updates, will it be possible to go inside buildings?
      
      if the camera angle was a struggle, would you make it first person just for the buildings?
      
      these would be very nice features
      
      
      squarebananas (April 2, 2012 10:44 am)
      
      

      In future updates, will it be possible to go inside buildings?
      
      if the camera angle was a struggle, would you make it first person just for the buildings?
      
      these would be very nice features

      I agree that this would be nice. There are a few issues with doing this though.
      
      First as you mentioned the camera code. At the moment the camera code is fairly simply and getting the camera to work inside a building without having an external wall blocking the view would be fairly difficult. Having a first person camera mode would be a solution although it would be different to the camera mode used for the rest of the game.
      
      The other issue is performance. The models used for Avatar Adventurers Online and the graphics drawing code aren't that efficient. In some towns I am already drawing the most I can to the screen before performance and frame drops become an issue. Having models drawn inside the building as well would drop the performance too much. Ideally the way around this would be to only draw objects that are in view of the camera however the graphics code to do this can be quite complex and doesn't exist in this particular game.
      
      I'm gradually working on improved graphics code for future games which would deal with these kinds of issues. As Avatar Adventurers Online is over a year old its unlikely the fundamental graphics code will be changed now. However if I were to work on another RPG I would definitely try to make it possible to go inside small buildings.
      
      
      oburgy (April 8, 2012 11:55 pm)
      
      I agree, and there is not really a way around it unless you make walls invisible indoors... that would be a bit strange though
      
      
      SuPeR X AnGeR (May 26, 2012 11:45 am)
      
      How about in another update if you do one, if you reach level 99 and then reset your character to level 1, you get a star next to your name, so everyone knows you have reached level 99. You could add say bronze, silver and gold levels to this system aswell, so a Bronze has done it once, Silver twice, and Gold 3 times. I've found it slightly boring being level 99 after completing the campaign and tower, but i don't want all the exp i've earned to be a total waste, but i would reset my level if i knew i would get a pretty star for it <3
      
      
      squarebananas (May 26, 2012 1:05 pm)
      
      

      How about in another update if you do one, if you reach level 99 and then reset your character to level 1, you get a star next to your name, so everyone knows you have reached level 99. You could add say bronze, silver and gold levels to this system aswell, so a Bronze has done it once, Silver twice, and Gold 3 times. I've found it slightly boring being level 99 after completing the campaign and tower, but i don't want all the exp i've earned to be a total waste, but i would reset my level if i knew i would get a pretty star for it <3

      Thanks for the suggestions. Its nice to hear you enjoyed the game so much you want to play it through again.
      
      Currently I'm working on another project although after that more content for Avatar Adventurers Online could be possible. Since the game first came out I have spent around 5 months developing additional content but I guess there is always room for more. Having additional classes to level or similar would definitely add more gameplay although Avatar Adventurers Online is likely to remain with a single class system as this was the way it was designed. There is also the possibility of another online RPG in the future with classes/skill development, pets, mounts, crafting etc. This is still just an idea at the moment though and it would be a fairly long term project.
      
      
      ChewyLouie420 (June 12, 2012 9:36 pm)
      
      Just wanna say what a awesomely addicting little MMO you got here, I would love to see a avatar adventure 2 with the additions you have posted there. Take your time with it you guys got a pretty hardcore following going on right now. Soon as you guys release yur new MMOPRG me and my brother will def purchase,Just add some friggin treasure chests lol keep up the good work!!!!
      
      
      squarebananas (June 13, 2012 8:44 am)
      
      

      Just wanna say what a awesomely addicting little MMO you got here, I would love to see a avatar adventure 2 with the additions you have posted there. Take your time with it you guys got a pretty hardcore following going on right now. Soon as you guys release yur new MMOPRG me and my brother will def purchase,Just add some friggin treasure chests lol keep up the good work!!!!

      Thank you, good to hear your enjoying the game. Any future RPG would be a long term project as it would be a very big task especially working solo. I will bear in mind the treasure chest suggestion though.
      
      
      
  • player info here
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      FadedSpade91 (February 29, 2012 7:14 pm)
      
      Every1 shud put lvl, proficiencies earned, n battle style of choice so others can learn how higher players rock out!
      
      
      FadedSpade91 (February 29, 2012 7:16 pm)
      
      For an example, im lvl 93 & I enhance my str n agil n melee. On bosses, agil n skill wif a scythe n ele shield.
      
      
      ee4life66 (March 1, 2012 7:51 pm)
      
      Currently lvl 17 from a restart.
      
      Agil and Str up in melee for now.
      
      When available in 4 lvls I will Para and Amni enemies, after a skill up so the ability has a greater chance of sticking.
      
      I also ability against the weakness but I figure every1 does.
      
      
      squarebananas (March 2, 2012 10:16 am)
      
      

      When available in 4 lvls I will Para and Amni enemies, after a skill up so the ability has a greater chance of sticking.

      Sorry for the off topic comment but I looked into what affects enfeebling abilities sticking (had to check code as I wrote it over a year ago).
      
      The chance of an enfeeble ability sticking is entirely dependant on the opponent's defence. With 0 defence the resistance chance is 50% and at 255 defence the resistance chance is 80%. I knew it was connected to defence, but I hadn't actually considered that using defence down will improve the chance of an enfeeble sticking. So try using defence down rather than skill up for this. Skill up will still improve your curative and destructive skills though.
      
      The same is true for player's defence, the higher your defence the greater your enfeeble resistance. With proficiency upgrades you can raise your resistance chance from 80% (255 stat) to 99% (so only 1% will work).
      
      Also the strength and duration of enhancing and enfeebling abilities is fixed. Higher level abilities just have a greater effect and last longer.
      
      
      BrandonT7 (March 2, 2012 3:55 pm)
      
      I'm a level 99 trying to get all of my upgrade's to the Max and stuff. I don't really have much info for my stats. i change them all the time with the weapons i have.... I think that's about it.
      
      
      
  • Tower & levelin partys
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      FadedSpade91 (February 27, 2012 8:33 pm)
      
      Pm fadedspade91 at xbox 4 info!
      
      
      
  • Marathon Man Quest Help Plz?
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      FadedSpade91 (February 27, 2012 8:31 pm)
      
      So I watched the youtube video extreme jogging but I still can't find how to get the marathon man quest n it's got some nice equipment stuff so I was really hoping some gonna be able to help me get the code for it just let me know on xbox @ fadedspade91 thank you
      
      
      squarebananas (February 28, 2012 9:29 am)
      
      To start the "Marathon Man" quest talk to Myles in Cashew City.
      
      After talking to him a guide window will pop up saying "On the full game of 'Extreme Jogging' press Up, Y, Down then X on the main menu to receive your bonus code. Make a note of the code and then enter it below to receive your bonus rewards."
      
      Basically the "Marathon Man" quest is like a reward for those who have purchased the "Extreme Jogging" indie game. The quest is entirely optional though.
      
      
      FadedSpade91 (February 28, 2012 1:15 pm)
      
      Ty ended up buyin it 4 my fiance lol. Exp booster rawks!
      
      
      LittleJimmy (February 5, 2013 7:11 pm)
      
      I spent the dollar and the pass they gave me was 75346 ^,..,^
      
      
      squarebananas (February 6, 2013 9:16 am)
      
      

      I spent the dollar and the pass they gave me was 75346 ^,..,^

      Just so your aware the bonus code given will be different for each gamer. Also the same bonus code can be used to unlock additional content on "Concept Coaster Craft" now as well.
      
      
      
• Impossibly Dodgeable

  • 10 Hours Of Rainbow Ravers (Impossibly Dodgeable)
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      Grunt Attack (August 11, 2013 11:38 am)
      
      https://youtu.be/SxZABscEpIo
      
      We need a true sequel to Impossibly Dodgeable, possibly on Xbox One since it has been confirmed there will be indie games. Extreme Jogging felt like complete different game and there isn't co-op mode.
      
      
      squarebananas (August 12, 2013 12:25 pm)
      
      As you mentioned although "Impossibly Dodgeable" and "Extreme Jogging" are similar they do have a number of differences. While "Impossibly Dodgeable" has 4-player co-op gameplay, "Extreme Jogging" is only a single player game with entirely different levels. However it does have improved graphics, global highscores and more abilities such as jumping on top of objects, crawling, swimming as well as running through walls and chase scenes.
      
      I guess a game which combined the extras within "Extreme Jogging" and the co-op gameplay of "Impossibly Dodgeable" would be good though.
      
      With regards to Xbox One while it has been strongly suggested that it will now support self published indie games in some form no details have yet been announced. This means it isn't yet possible for small indie developers to start developing in readiness for the Xbox One. It is expected some details will be announced later this month hopefully making it clear what language will be required, what development tools will need to be used and how the indie marketplace will work.
      
      With the Xbox One being released in only a few months time though it is quite likely self published indie games won't be available at release when considering how late such details will be announced. Developing for the Xbox One is something that I will definitely consider though once the details are known.
      
      
      
• Angry Brainless Bovines

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• RC Helicopter Sim

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• Shake!

  • Post Your Highscores
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      orangechickens (February 25, 2012 12:37 pm)
      
      My highscore is 1160 km. I usually just spin the thumbsticks around as fast as I can.
      What's your best highscore?
      
      
      Grunt Attack (January 1, 2013 4:12 am)
      
      I got this
      
      
      

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